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Post by Joepublic on Oct 19, 2023 10:14:16 GMT 1
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Post by valhalla on Oct 19, 2023 21:07:46 GMT 1
I was reading about this in the Torygraph yesterday......and thought voicey
It seems that it doesn't matter what the fuel-source is with these supercars, they all seem to go up in flames just the same.  |
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Post by OldGit on Oct 19, 2023 23:04:39 GMT 1
I saw that - thought 'Richard Hammond' - then reconsidered as it wasn't upside down...
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Post by voicey on Oct 20, 2023 8:12:52 GMT 1
I was reading about this in the Torygraph yesterday......and thought voicey
It seems that it doesn't matter what the fuel-source is with these supercars, they all seem to go up in flames just the same. It's a big thing with mid/rear engined supercars. You have a longitudinally mounted Vee engine and gearbox which means that there are two exhaust systems running parallel down the side of the drivetrain. Then, due to weight distribution, you have a pair of fuel tanks sandwiching the engine right up against the bulkhead. Any kind of fluid leak, unless it is from the bottom of the engine or gearbox, is going to get onto the exhaust. With predictable results. I had a client phone me up the the day from the side of the road after his engine bay had filled with lots of smoke. Car was recovered to me - it turned out that the CV boot had leaked a very small amount of grease between the metal cup of the boot and the joint. Due to the small amount of grease egress he only had lots of smoke (and brown underwear). If the boot had actually split then it would have probably gone up in flames. |
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Post by remmington on Oct 20, 2023 16:27:59 GMT 1
I was reading about this in the Torygraph yesterday......and thought voicey It seems that it doesn't matter what the fuel-source is with these supercars, they all seem to go up in flames just the same. It's a big thing with mid/rear engined supercars. You have a longitudinally mounted Vee engine and gearbox which means that there are two exhaust systems running parallel down the side of the drivetrain. Then, due to weight distribution, you have a pair of fuel tanks sandwiching the engine right up against the bulkhead. Any kind of fluid leak, unless it is from the bottom of the engine or gearbox, is going to get onto the exhaust. With predictable results. I had a client phone me up the the day from the side of the road after his engine bay had filled with lots of smoke. Car was recovered to me - it turned out that the CV boot had leaked a very small amount of grease between the metal cup of the boot and the joint. Due to the small amount of grease egress he only had lots of smoke (and brown underwear). If the boot had actually split then it would have probably gone up in flames. Voicey is about - prey tell me = how is the young boy doing? |
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Post by voicey on Oct 21, 2023 8:14:50 GMT 1
Voicey is about - prey tell me = how is the young boy doing? Good thanks. I will post an update in the Trade section. |
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Post by Noberator on Oct 24, 2023 21:52:15 GMT 1
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Post by OldGit on Oct 24, 2023 22:03:29 GMT 1
Was the Range Rover shown at the end the one accused of starting it?  |
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Post by Noberator on Oct 24, 2023 22:46:38 GMT 1
Was the Range Rover shown at the end the one accused of starting it? I don't think it was the vehicle that was alleged to have started the fire. My reasons for saying that are as such. The Range Rover in the clip is being removed from the top floor and there is no signs of any fire damage to it at all and the vehicle in question the Range Rover on fire that started on level three on the N/S/F would have had significant fire damage to it and may well still be where it was left. Here's a clip of the original Range Rover Hybrid diesel suspected of starting the fire on level three. |
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Post by OldGit on Oct 25, 2023 15:17:28 GMT 1
Well, it could've been, tough old birds these LR's.... Well, according to the adverts.
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Post by valhalla on Oct 25, 2023 21:18:26 GMT 1
Well, it could've been, tough old birds these LR's.... Well, according to the adverts. I think that the latest on this one is that a) the authorities are still not admitting it was a hybrid b) the same authorities are not explaining why they have doctored the image of the front of the burning vehicle (registration number is different from the one on the tailgate) and c) Beds police have arrested and released/bailed a gentleman in connection with this fire
If Geoff Buys Cars chappie is correct on this one, and little reason to doubt that, then it might appear that "a gentleman" left his smoking RangeRover where it stopped, caught his flight, then realised what had happen at his destination.
Insurance companies are trying to wriggle out of the whole sorry mess - they are all from the same camp, as thick-as-thieves - offering way below market values for the destroyed cars.
My MT insurer was not too worried about EV's on my policy, but that was only because that policy is for the road-risks, not buildings. Apparently.....if I was looking for buildings cover, the prices are about to go upwards. I renewed just after this conflagration at Luton, and the insurance trade had not yet properly caught-up with the events back then, but I understand that things are about to get a bit more sticky for repairers of EV's and hybrids. The broker on the other end of the phone-line seemed quite cheerful about the whole business - you would be cheerful, if you just found another way of jacking the premiums up!
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Post by OldGit on Oct 28, 2023 21:17:12 GMT 1
Looks like the pendulum is settling... |
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Post by valhalla on Oct 28, 2023 22:44:57 GMT 1
I suspect that the only way that EU carmakers of EV's are going to come out of this still solvent, is by ensuring that the competition from China is placed on a level playing-field, i.e. a proper and thorough study/enforcement of safety-standards in-line with those used for the current EU markets.
That means a fair bit of work for the TuV, etc. etc., hopefully in conjunction with the UK certification bodies, to get proper standards back in-place for battery-safety, driveability sytems, and safety-overrides. It isn't being "protectionist" to have proper safety-reaction testing for all imported vehicles into the EU and UK markets, it just makes sense, although it might hit the US-producers a bit; all depends on whether they have followed conventional software sign-off's and testing as-per the last 30years of IC production cars on this continent.
It might make "self-driving" MG EV's a thing of the past.....  |
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Post by remmington on Nov 28, 2023 19:22:48 GMT 1
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Post by Rhubarb on Nov 28, 2023 21:33:38 GMT 1
FFS, just when you think you've seen it all! |
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