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Post by upkeep on Oct 10, 2023 7:55:47 GMT 1
Well getting to that age where pensions are needing to be sorted out, and it occurred to me how much bigger my pension would be if I had invested all the money I had paid the Snap-on man over the years.
I then decided it's best not to think about it. It must be the only trade where you have to invest an enormous amount of money to do the job your employer employs you for.
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Post by Rhubarb on Oct 10, 2023 8:00:27 GMT 1
Well getting to that age where pensions are needing to be sorted out, and it occurred to me how much bigger my pension would be if I had invested all the money I had paid the Snap-on man over the years. I then decided it's best not to think about it. It must be the only trade where you have to invest an enormous amount of money to do the job your employer employs you for. Looking on the bright side, once you retire you could flog all your tools off. Second hand Snap on holds its value
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Post by upkeep on Oct 10, 2023 9:00:44 GMT 1
Well getting to that age where pensions are needing to be sorted out, and it occurred to me how much bigger my pension would be if I had invested all the money I had paid the Snap-on man over the years. I then decided it's best not to think about it. It must be the only trade where you have to invest an enormous amount of money to do the job your employer employs you for. Looking on the bright side, once you retire you could flog all your tools off. Second hand Snap on holds its value I have old motorbikes and stuff so that won't be happening, still enjoy doing stuff but will have more time to do it.
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Post by rhyds on Oct 10, 2023 10:05:46 GMT 1
I think the same whenever BYOD (Bring your own device) is mentioned in my workplace (IT)
I get that a lot of work supplied devices are locked down and a bit naff, but am I heck going to use my personal kit for work, and especially not give out my personal phone number for work use.
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Post by chippie on Oct 10, 2023 10:11:35 GMT 1
I find that very bizarre, working in IT and expected to Byod for work use…
Imagine the chaos that could be caused if you had an unrevealed virus/Trojan/malware/spyware or what ever on the device and it infected other users?
We were never allowed things like memory sticks in our place unless supplied to us and were scanned before use.
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Post by valhalla on Oct 10, 2023 12:18:21 GMT 1
As a development Engineer (former life) I had to bleed from the eyes for equipment for any sort of level of equipment, certainly around the early 2000's.
"Future tools" were just off the agenda altogether; things like oscilloscopes and accelerometers were for the Instrumentation Department only (goodness knows what they did with it, outside of NVH measurement) and I had a steep cliff to climb in order to justify developments for Engines Engineers - even at the sharp-end of electronic calibraion.
I had my own tools, that I used to take into work. My argument was that the Fitters had to BYO tools, and we were going to get nowhere in the world by ignoring the uses to which modern technology could be applied. The main ones were a "spare" Toshiba Tecra laptop that was my own, to sideload some of the measurement work that was needed in-parallel to the main calibration/emulation on the laptops we were using. Intensive work was usually in-vehicle, and often inside test-facilities like rolling-roads/climatic chambers/altitude chambers. The task of running emulator-modules over application ECU's was all that the supplied Dell's could do - especially in the cold, when the screens often would not light-up. Sometimes I had to run the application controllers over the Toshiba, just to get the testwork going.
Then there was my Picoscope, an early 2ch unit, which I ran through the Toshiba, and which brought-in the auxiliary thermocouples from the cars. I always had this with me at work, and it saved tens of thousands of pounds of lost chamber bookings when other aspects of the facilities failed near the front of the testing. A specific example was using the Pico to measure, calculate, and input road-speed data from the rollers on an altitude rig at Dunton - the facility had broken-down on the data-acquisition side of this sort of thing - for the entire weekend of testing of emissions-cycles at various altitudes.
Did the management understand? Like h*** they did !!
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Post by remmington on Oct 10, 2023 17:43:39 GMT 1
Well getting to that age where pensions are needing to be sorted out, and it occurred to me how much bigger my pension would be if I had invested all the money I had paid the Snap-on man over the years. I then decided it's best not to think about it. It must be the only trade where you have to invest an enormous amount of money to do the job your employer employs you for. Looking on the bright side, once you retire you could flog all your tools off. Second hand Snap on holds its value Not my Snap On stuff - they all well used - all hit with hammers - nothing I got is a full set now - all have had plenty of use and been well abused. What is the saying? "ridden hard and put away wet"....!
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Post by Karl on Oct 11, 2023 13:37:26 GMT 1
Love Valhalla’s tales of R&D for land rover ?
Gone a bit off the initial subject
As for tools
I wouldn’t want to be supplied Company tools as a personal preference
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Post by huffo on Oct 11, 2023 16:06:01 GMT 1
If mechanics have to provide their own tools, do they have to insure the tools themselves too, or are they covered on the insurance for the premises? I’d imagine this is a bit of a minefield. Because the mechanics don’t have much say in the fire and security arrangements for the premises, but the owner of the premises mightn’t know what the value of all his mechanics tools are. I expect some mechanics have tools and equipment worth thousands, if not tens of thousands, that they leave at the garage.
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Post by valhalla on Oct 11, 2023 16:28:01 GMT 1
If mechanics have to provide their own tools, do they have to insure the tools themselves too, or are they covered on the insurance for the premises? I’d imagine this is a bit of a minefield. Because the mechanics don’t have much say in the fire and security arrangements for the premises, but the owner of the premises mightn’t know what the value of all his mechanics tools are. I expect some mechanics have tools and equipment worth thousands, if not tens of thousands, that they leave at the garage. The biggest and best padlocks at Solihull/Gaydon were not on the main gates, they were on all of the roller-cabinets !!
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Post by Karl on Oct 11, 2023 20:11:25 GMT 1
If mechanics have to provide their own tools, do they have to insure the tools themselves too, or are they covered on the insurance for the premises? I’d imagine this is a bit of a minefield. Because the mechanics don’t have much say in the fire and security arrangements for the premises, but the owner of the premises mightn’t know what the value of all his mechanics tools are. I expect some mechanics have tools and equipment worth thousands, if not tens of thousands, that they leave at the garage. The garages contents insurance will cover cost of most tools and equipment inc the guys tools and boxes Guessing you’d be typically looking around £250,000 But that wouldn’t necessarily cover everything We are asked to photograph all are stuff I do that maybe once or twice a year To prove what I’ve got
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Post by Karl on Oct 11, 2023 20:14:10 GMT 1
Don’t want to think of what I’ve spent over the time
At least 10k I’d imagine could well be more
Which I guess if you think about it
It will cost someone a ton of money to train up at university etc
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Post by OldGit on Oct 11, 2023 21:28:22 GMT 1
If mechanics have to provide their own tools, do they have to insure the tools themselves too, or are they covered on the insurance for the premises? I’d imagine this is a bit of a minefield. Because the mechanics don’t have much say in the fire and security arrangements for the premises, but the owner of the premises mightn’t know what the value of all his mechanics tools are. I expect some mechanics have tools and equipment worth thousands, if not tens of thousands, that they leave at the garage. Ours are specifically insured by the company - we have to upload photos every year or when there are 'significant additions', the boxes also have to be secured to the fabric of the building - the employer supplies chains, resin-locked floor bolt-eyes & padlocks. Most also supplement with their own chains & padlocks. Cover is up to £25k, mine is £24,999. If it was a total loss, I might make £10, maybe £15 profit on replacement costs.
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Post by Joepublic on Oct 11, 2023 23:01:40 GMT 1
Question, if the unmentionable did happen would you replace like for like or buy a lesser make and pocket the rest?
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Post by upkeep on Oct 12, 2023 7:52:53 GMT 1
If mechanics have to provide their own tools, do they have to insure the tools themselves too, or are they covered on the insurance for the premises? I’d imagine this is a bit of a minefield. Because the mechanics don’t have much say in the fire and security arrangements for the premises, but the owner of the premises mightn’t know what the value of all his mechanics tools are. I expect some mechanics have tools and equipment worth thousands, if not tens of thousands, that they leave at the garage. Last dealership I worked for (28 years ago), I asked that question as there had been a spate of burglary's and was told yes insured for 5 grand, I said mine had been valued at 20 grand, no that's in total he said so a grand each for the 5 mechanics. I promptly loaded my van and just had the bear basics, he did up the insurance but my complete set never graced the premises again.
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