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Post by Noberator on Jan 30, 2015 12:46:19 GMT 1
Spot on thanks, I had worked it out at £280 a year dearer to run a petrol but then I had different fuel prices etc. must check what prices up here are! Thanks for the info, least I know my maths ain't too bad! Glad to help that's what this Forum was set up for. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread diesels are more expensive to buy than petrol equivalents so say a thousand pound when new (reduces on age dependant on vehicle) it would take 3-4 years to recoup the outlay. £500 would take 2 years or less and so on. That's not taking into account Insurance and Servicing. I now don't do as many miles as I used to but if I where to do your mileage per annum with my vehicle I have now it would cost me £1,477 a year to run my petrol than the diesel equivalent.
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Post by Joepublic on Jan 30, 2015 17:25:36 GMT 1
Spot on thanks, I had worked it out at £280 a year dearer to run a petrol but then I had different fuel prices etc. must check what prices up here are! Thanks for the info, least I know my maths ain't too bad! Glad to help that's what this Forum was set up for. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread diesels are more expensive to buy than petrol equivalents so say a thousand pound when new (reduces on age dependant on vehicle) it would take 3-4 years to recoup the outlay. £500 would take 2 years or less and so on. That's not taking into account Insurance and Servicing. I now don't do as many miles as I used to but if I where to do your mileage per annum with my vehicle I have now it would cost me £1,477 a year to run my petrol than the diesel equivalent. A diesel would fetch a premium over a petrol when it comes to sell, a low mileage diesel would lose very little of the difference when its time to pass it on.
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Post by rpm on Jan 30, 2015 18:17:37 GMT 1
Glad to help that's what this Forum was set up for. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread diesels are more expensive to buy than petrol equivalents so say a thousand pound when new (reduces on age dependant on vehicle) it would take 3-4 years to recoup the outlay. £500 would take 2 years or less and so on. That's not taking into account Insurance and Servicing. I now don't do as many miles as I used to but if I where to do your mileage per annum with my vehicle I have now it would cost me £1,477 a year to run my petrol than the diesel equivalent. A diesel would fetch a premium over a petrol when it comes to sell, a low mileage diesel would lose very little of the difference when its time to pass it on. All very true. But, what about repair and servicing costs over some time? I would say the Diesel equivalent versus petrol, of most cars, would incur bigger bills if repairs are required, and more likely to be needed if its diesel? Any engine work and its almost certainly the diesel that will be the worst? So in summary, not much in it. The economy (only really viable over higher mileage and usage) doesnt outweigh the fragility and risk of cost of repairs in my opinion
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Post by Karl on Jan 30, 2015 19:31:17 GMT 1
Diesels should only be fitted to HGV s and Fishing boat s
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Post by Monkey on Jan 30, 2015 21:20:28 GMT 1
Diesels should only be fitted to HGV s and Fishing boat s Amen to that. Small diesels (DV4/5/6 for example) just aren't reliable or robust.. Although what is.. Can't see 1.0 ecoboost liking 140bhp plus for long.. Boom!
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Post by Karl on Jan 30, 2015 23:04:59 GMT 1
Diesels should only be fitted to HGV s and Fishing boat s Amen to that. Small diesels (DV4/5/6 for example) just aren't reliable or robust.. Although what is.. Can't see 1.0 ecoboost liking 140bhp plus for long.. Boom! Some tuning firms take them to 170 that's about the limit without uprated internals
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Post by Karl on Jan 30, 2015 23:08:43 GMT 1
We've had a few teething problems with early ones
But bound to be on a newly developed engine
Eventually will replace the zetec's
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Post by Monkey on Jan 31, 2015 20:21:38 GMT 1
Boys at my old dealer tell me they've had a couple with warped cylinder heads causing no starts due to so much coolant in cylinders!
Prior approval had them bolt complete engines in. The cars are going to be scrap in 10 years time, you seen the procedure to replace the timing belts in oil? 750nm crank pulley bolt! You have to remove O/S driveshaft and bolt a Torque multiplier to engine to loosen bolt!
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Post by Karl on Jan 31, 2015 20:43:27 GMT 1
Boys at my old dealer tell me they've had a couple with warped cylinder heads causing no starts due to so much coolant in cylinders! Prior approval had them bolt complete engines in. The cars are going to be scrap in 10 years time, you seen the procedure to replace the timing belts in oil? 750nm crank pulley bolt! You have to remove O/S driveshaft and bolt a Torque multiplier to engine to loosen bolt! Not warped heads , exhaust manifold cracks (all part of head) yes there's no way you can buzz them off , I've tried!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 21:52:39 GMT 1
Boys at my old dealer tell me they've had a couple with warped cylinder heads causing no starts due to so much coolant in cylinders! Prior approval had them bolt complete engines in. The cars are going to be scrap in 10 years time, you seen the procedure to replace the timing belts in oil? 750nm crank pulley bolt! You have to remove O/S driveshaft and bolt a Torque multiplier to engine to loosen bolt! Not warped heads , exhaust manifold cracks (all part of head) yes there's no way you can buzz them off , I've tried!! Ford doesn't want the belt to be changed it seems, they will last the life of the car
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Post by Monkey on Feb 1, 2015 10:58:59 GMT 1
Boys at my old dealer tell me they've had a couple with warped cylinder heads causing no starts due to so much coolant in cylinders! Prior approval had them bolt complete engines in. The cars are going to be scrap in 10 years time, you seen the procedure to replace the timing belts in oil? 750nm crank pulley bolt! You have to remove O/S driveshaft and bolt a Torque multiplier to engine to loosen bolt! Not warped heads , exhaust manifold cracks (all part of head) yes there's no way you can buzz them off , I've tried!! Ah yes I remember seeing the exhaust manifold design on etis. I haven't the engine in the flesh yet.
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Post by Karl on Feb 1, 2015 11:33:43 GMT 1
Not warped heads , exhaust manifold cracks (all part of head) yes there's no way you can buzz them off , I've tried!! Ford doesn't want the belt to be changed it seems, they will last the life of the car There is some truth in this
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Post by gary66 on Feb 14, 2015 20:36:08 GMT 1
Diesels should only be fitted to HGV s and Fishing boat s Hi fella's, I was on the old forum and have now registered here. I'm beginning to angle to the same school of thought as Karl where cars are concerned. With hassle from DPF's and the like, I'm becoming convinced that diesels are a waste of time on cars unless you do constant high mileage motorway work, year in, year out! From running cost point of view, the gap must be closing between the two the fuels if all you do is potter about locally! I've had 2 (still got them both) MK4 B5.5 Passat diesels with the 1.9PD for the last 7 years and both have been virtually fault free, one of which is now on 175K miles. Ive not got a clue what to replace them with when the time comes though! With all the rubbish they are bolting on them, making them unreliable these days, I doubt anything I buy will be a diesel again.
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Post by Karl on Feb 14, 2015 20:47:17 GMT 1
Hello gary66 welcome to the forum
Out of interest how did you find this forum ?
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Post by gary66 on Feb 14, 2015 22:22:04 GMT 1
Hello gary66 welcome to the forum Out of interest how did you find this forum ? Ive been a lurker for a few weeks before re registering, Karl but IIRC, there was a link from the old forum that brought me here to this one?!
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