Grandland X Timing Chain

[stu]

So, I've been told the timing chain on my 2018 Grandland X has broke. The garage has said I might need to consider a new engine, but is pricing up options.

The Grandland is a non-interference engine so I would not expect there to be catastrophic engine damage - is that correct ?

Had no problems whatsoever with the car for the 4 years that I have had it and the problem did not happen whilst driving. I had pulled up, turned the engine off and came out a few hours later to it not starting.

Any advice on what best to do here, or on this issue in general?

Thanks,
Stu

[huffo]

Which engine has your Grandland X got fitted? There have been at least 6 different engines types fitted to them.

[stu]

Apologies - it is a 1.5L DV5 BlueHDi

[valhalla]

Did your garage explain why they thought the timing-chain had snapped? I would have expected them to at-least have looked into the cam-cover for that diagnosis.

If they are seeing the absence of a camshaft or crankshaft sensor (speed/timing) signal, then it would make sense for them to confirm that either/both of these sensors is/are in good condition, as either would give the symptoms you have just described. Generically, these sensors tend to fail in-time with thermal-cycling, so the engine will appear fine and dandy until it is switched-off and left to cool-down.

Might be worth seeking a second-opinion on the ground from an independent garage with the right toolset (a decent auto electrician or diagnostic Engineer) before committing to a replacement power-unit. Start with "cheap and simple" before expecting the worst.

[chippie]

I think the crank sensor might be worth considering ?

Tech2 anyone?

[remmington]

Sept 22, 2023 10:22:31 GMT 1 stu said:

Apologies - it is a 1.5L DV5 BlueHDi

Full inteference engine - valves will be bent for sure - I seen cams bent in these as well.

What sort of mileage has it covered?

Negleted oil changes or just poor oil?

[studabear]

Is it these where the vacum pumps seize up and take the camshaft out or have I dreamt that?

[remmington]

Sept 22, 2023 19:43:31 GMT 1 studabear said:

Is it these where the vacum pumps seize up and take the camshaft out or have I dreamt that?

New one on me - but possible.


I have several VW 2.0 crafter engines do what you describe in our workshop - no compression as the cams are all chewed up - but belt is still on.

[Karl]

the timing chain between the cams snap on these


the chain size is 7mm where it should be an 8mm diameter chain


the manufacturers are aware of the problem

ford/vauxhall/peugeot

[Rhubarb]

Don't think we're going to hear about this again..

New member asks a question and never returns, second one this week.

[onyx]

i think Karl has told him all he needs to know on this one .. inherent fault