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Post by Rhubarb on Apr 30, 2023 13:07:23 GMT 1
Idiot light on the dash lights orange with oil low level if the owner idiot fails to check the levels himself. Red light on the dash and STOP OIL PRESSURE on the display too Imagine if he had an EV, anxiety about a seal, imagine his anxiety about battery range! I’m on a an American Tdi group on fb, they’re all like him - everything should last for ever…. I don't think it's just yanks. Seems to be the general (sh1t) attitude from people when they don't like the answer/truth these days  |
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Post by OldGit on Apr 30, 2023 13:29:52 GMT 1
Yep, we hear it at work on as daily basis, car comes in with a concern, diagnosed and explanation of 'characteristic' or repair costs given - driver then starts whining, usually with 'but it says on the internet....' or 'on the owners forum it says you should.....'
You even get the same if people trouble you for directions to somewhere, you tell 'em the best way to get there and they then say 'are you sure? sat-nav says....' at which point I leave them to it.
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Post by remmington on Apr 30, 2023 13:53:33 GMT 1
I don't even care to guess what the manufacturer believes the nominal lifespan of this product is, but I would suppose you are one of those who buys a new phone every two years because the manufacturer says it doesn't last longer, no? I'll reply to the only bit of your spittle-laden response worthy of the electrons:- I usually change my phone every 4-5 years, always for a good used one and take off the supplied spyware by installing a Google free OS, currently using a Oneplus 9 I bought earlier this year for a very good price. If you want to see 'design faults & cut corners', have a look at Landrovers from the last fifteen years or so, I worked for them for a long time and have owned (and still do) their products - the 3.0 TDV6 front crank seals don't just leak, they fall out - now that is something worth getting your spandex in a twist about..... And as remmington says above, there are far bigger issues to worry about with that engine than a bit of oil misting - and yes, I'd noticed the soot deposits too, I suspect due to oil dilution/bore washing caused by DPF regen failures. I was really "sad" when I removed the sump from my own car to see the carbon gritty deposits in it en mass. It has had a good service history as well. Also it does not have any history of EML on with regen issues. Only time I know it is in regen - when the fan runs all the while. |
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Post by remmington on Apr 30, 2023 14:00:58 GMT 1
Idiot light on the dash lights orange with oil low level if the owner idiot fails to check the levels himself. Red light on the dash and STOP OIL PRESSURE on the display too Imagine if he had an EV, anxiety about a seal, imagine his anxiety about battery range! I’m on a an American Tdi group on fb, they’re all like him - everything should last for ever…. I don't think it's just yanks. Seems to be the general (sh1t) attitude from people when they don't like the answer/truth these days I don't mind the truth chucked into me - even if I don't like it - it does allow me to make an educated decision on how to proceed. The OP has bought a six year old car with mileage on it and then is shocked it is not a new car. If you want a new car - buy a new car. Someone (wise old man) recently told me he buys "a three year car warranty and the manufacturers give him a car to go with it - and the end of the three years he does it again and the car maybe a different colour". This did make me smile abit - but I could see the nice chaps thinking. |
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Post by OldGit on Apr 30, 2023 14:45:01 GMT 1
remmington - as you know, not every failed regen will put the EML on, only once the soot level needs workshop intervention, but you can and do get oil dilution due to failed regens, even though it eventually completes. It is the fuel that ends up in the sump that 'washes' the carbon away from other parts and prevents it being held in suspension in the undiluted oil and therefore caught in the filter. That's how it was explained to us by VWG, PSA & Volvo trainers anyway, it's no stretch of thought process to imagine it ending up against the edges of a seal. I understand it's also the reason why turbo oil seals are not oil-tight, to allow carbon to be flushed through the bushings rather than bunging it up and progressively preventing oil flow.
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Post by remmington on Apr 30, 2023 15:22:19 GMT 1
remmington - as you know, not every failed regen will put the EML on, only once the soot level needs workshop intervention, but you can and do get oil dilution due to failed regens, even though it eventually completes. It is the fuel that ends up in the sump that 'washes' the carbon away from other parts and prevents it being held in suspension in the undiluted oil and therefore caught in the filter. That's how it was explained to us by VWG, PSA & Volvo trainers anyway, it's no stretch of thought process to imagine it ending up against the edges of a seal. I understand it's also the reason why turbo oil seals are not oil-tight, to allow carbon to be flushed through the bushings rather than bunging it up and progressively preventing oil flow. I get this OldGit - I agree with you 100% - this is why - I am so anti longlife servicing! Keep changing the oil is my mantra - I do it on my own cars. ----------- But sadly - my customers think I am just selling expensive servicing...
My punters don't wanna pay for anything extra to a used car ownership - except vanity plates maybe... |
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Post by OldGit on Apr 30, 2023 17:43:14 GMT 1
Without exception, all the Audi's with engine/emissions issues were set to longlife service intervals - clearly it's an oxymoron. There was/is a test procedure for excessive oil consumption, as part of the preconditions for further investigation a check was made on the service interval type - longlife vehicles were classed as NFA if it was a warranty/goodwill investigation.
BTW, I always thought of Longlife milk when I saw it on service documentation, It always made me think 'great in theory, but you wouldn't want it in your tea'.
I only do about ~5k miles p.a. but still do an oil & filter change every six months with Magnatec (The Mrs. gets it at staff rates from a Ford dealer), I see it as the cheapest form of preventative maintenance I can do.
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