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Post by studabear on Jan 26, 2023 12:39:51 GMT 1
So I'm going to replace the EGR valve on my trusty 2007 Focus 1.8 Petrol.
My usual motor factors can only get a Cambiere.
Spotted what looks like a new genuine one on ebay for £80 if its correct, but dunno how warannty would work.
Any brands to avoid or aim for?
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Post by chippie on Jan 26, 2023 14:47:02 GMT 1
Me personally, I’d go for either a Ford part or an oem equivalent…..
Had a discussion last week with a couple of guys I use for doing VAG work, who set up on their own, my sons car need a new dpf pressure sensor, and although we could get one from GSF made by Bosch, they recommended an oem part from TPS…after chatting with them had to agree on their reasons for selection…
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Post by rhyds on Jan 26, 2023 16:57:44 GMT 1
So I'm going to replace the EGR valve on my trusty 2007 Focus 1.8 Petrol. My usual motor factors can only get a Cambiere. Spotted what looks like a new genuine one on ebay for £80 if its correct, but dunno how warannty would work. Any brands to avoid or aim for? Can you link to the ebay listing? I'd imagine that the part warranty would depend on the seller. Some Ford dealers sell genuine parts on ebay so the warranty may be pretty good Autodoc is another option if you can wait for the delivery to arrive. |
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Post by studabear on Jan 26, 2023 17:18:12 GMT 1
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Post by rhyds on Jan 26, 2023 17:44:33 GMT 1
From the looks of it you're not going to get a part warranty from that seller, as they seem to be a "box shifter".
I'd have a quick at how much Ford wants for one, and if its significantly more expensive I'd go with this ebay one.
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Post by studabear on Jan 26, 2023 21:58:57 GMT 1
Euro do a Pierburg unit which should be a safe bet, I do know a man there who can batter the prices down so might see what he can do.
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Post by remmington on Jan 26, 2023 22:47:58 GMT 1
Euro do a Pierburg unit which should be a safe bet, I do know a man there who can batter the prices down so might see what he can do. Safe bet - NO - I sent loads of VW and BMW "euro Peirburg" EGRs back to europoohs under warranty! Constant postion sensor failures... |
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Post by studabear on Jan 26, 2023 23:15:16 GMT 1
Back to plan A then.
Which manufacturers do you trust Pete?
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Post by valhalla on Jan 26, 2023 23:23:10 GMT 1
Pierburg were OEM for quite a few engine programmes around the 1990's and 2000's, but I know that they were not always the best-designed for solenoids, etc. where the EGR valve is lifted by a PWM-controlled vacuum solenoid. The solenoid valves would quite often get blocked-up with dusty debris and the like, and that was the reason Rover Cars moved away from Pierburg for the L-series engines.
Later units with integrated electronics may well be better; Pierburg hardware itself was always quite robust on things like poppet valves and guides, and the mechanisms to move them.
That said.....I think they may have been OEM on some PSA engines, like the DW12B 2.2 TD4 engine in the Freelander2 that I have to change next week. I've gone with LR Genuine, but if the new part is anything like the old part......the position sensory bit will quickly give-up the ghost again. Hmmmm.
As an aside, I pulled a Hella throttle-pedal unit from same car apart this week. All very minimalist, very German "plastic-fantastic" with lots of glass-filled nylon and no durability. I couldn't fault the circuitboard, but I think the header and pins down to it (a separate unit on this - the connection is made by sprung fingers on assembly) were the primary mode of failure. Looking closely at the header assembly, the choice/s of plating on the contacts was, well, how would you say politely? .........questionable.......
(i.e. downright cheap, and with no imagination to the operating conditions in the footwell of a Landrover product)
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Post by valhalla on Jan 26, 2023 23:42:47 GMT 1
Back to plan A then. Which manufacturers do you trust Pete? If you can afford to wait a week or two, then I would go one of two routes myself, both through Online Car Parts;
OE option would be to use a Metzger-branded OE part, which may prove cheaper than the Ford-branded part;
If you wanted to save a bit of money, I have used Vemo-branded parts for quite a few VAG's, and have never had a single problem to-date (there I go, bet they start failing next week....);
A third option, if you really want to go budget, is to use Hitachi, which rebrand something else completely (as far as I can tell), but I have have had 100% success with these on older cars myself;
But.....in all cases above, make sure that these are the right valve/s for your car, as I have guessed the engine code for you, before you push the button on any!!!  |
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Post by studabear on Jan 26, 2023 23:58:08 GMT 1
If I have no joy with ebay seller, who has said he will check against my reg for the genuine Ford one and has said he will do it for £75 then I will look into these avenues. Thank you Valhalla. TBH I'm taking a gamble replacing the EGR, its a reccuring P0400 error code. A mate has had his smoke tester down the throttle body for me this morning and nothing showed up in terms of a vacum/air leak. So I'm hoping at 99000 miles its just time for a new part.  |
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Post by remmington on Jan 27, 2023 7:17:26 GMT 1
Back to plan A then. Which manufacturers do you trust Pete? For EGR and throttle bodies - I prefer to go OE - the dealer and just pay. Everything else - is a gamble (but a cost saving). |
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Post by rhyds on Jan 27, 2023 13:45:20 GMT 1
My approach to the sources of parts on my personal car is
1) Will this part failing likely cause an accident? (e.g. decent brake pads/tyres rather than cheapy ebay stuff)
2) Does the time/labour to fit this part cost more than the part itself? (there's no point saving £50-£100 on a clutch kit if the labour to replace the cheap clutch is £250)
3) Will this part failing leave me at the side of the road? (decent batteries etc.)
4) Is the factory/expensive part significantly better than the pattern option? (e.g. Factory/expensive parts coming with full fitting kits)
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Post by Rhubarb on Jan 27, 2023 16:23:15 GMT 1
If I have no joy with ebay seller, who has said he will check against my reg for the genuine Ford one and has said he will do it for £75 then I will look into these avenues. Thank you Valhalla. TBH I'm taking a gamble replacing the EGR, its a reccuring P0400 error code. A mate has had his smoke tester down the throttle body for me this morning and nothing showed up in terms of a vacum/air leak. So I'm hoping at 99000 miles its just time for a new part. Have you checked Live data of EGR? Remove/check/clean it. Don't go throwing parts at it  Or get a fresh pair of eyes to look at it? You know what I mean, you can get blind to things  |
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Post by remmington on Jan 27, 2023 17:17:00 GMT 1
My approach to the sources of parts on my personal car is 1) Will this part failing likely cause an accident? (e.g. decent brake pads/tyres rather than cheapy ebay stuff) 2) Does the time/labour to fit this part cost more than the part itself? (there's no point saving £50-£100 on a clutch kit if the labour to replace the cheap clutch is £250) 3) Will this part failing leave me at the side of the road? (decent batteries etc.) 4) Is the factory/expensive part significantly better than the pattern option? (e.g. Factory/expensive parts coming with full fitting kits) ------------ You forgot to add... 5) Is is a customers car or your own car? I tend to fit Factory brakes and droplinks to my own cars - I cannot stand squeaky brakes and changing drop links every year. |
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