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Post by remmington on Aug 29, 2021 14:45:15 GMT 1
I will have a look at this... Where do I find it? - iplayer?I was interested in the Skye bridge... I think so, there is some footage of the bridge, but it is brief iplayer it is then...  |
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Post by valhalla on Aug 30, 2021 0:57:12 GMT 1
Most of the poor souls that want to relocate up here; they don't realise it comes as a package.
Yes, the scenery is stunning, the air is clean, the life is simple (sometimes), but.....you don't get to appreciate it most of the time, because you spend most of your life just existing, then you get too infirm to work, then you die.
Some incomers can make "retirement" work, but then they realise that to live their dreams, they also have to work at it, and most of them cannot do that. Two Winters, then they are gone, and all they leave behind is yet another "new build" inappropriate bit of tat in an inappropriate place on the Isle, now filled with holiday-let tourists.
Life is tough here, and that is what makes the landscape as glorious as it might seem on the small screen, but balance that with a lack of infrastructure (essential services like public transport, medical provision, etc) and you can easily see how the whole "retirement" thing can fall apart for so many of them. Once they lose the ability to drive, they may as well be on the 18th floor of a tower-block in London.
The indigenous peoples here do not like incomers, because they rarely integrate properly, or stay long-enough to become part of the community. It takes 10years to become accepted, another 10years before you have earned the right to stay!! The only way to fast-track the process is to buy a Post Office.....
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Post by rhyds on Aug 30, 2021 8:45:38 GMT 1
Most of the poor souls that want to relocate up here; they don't realise it comes as a package. Yes, the scenery is stunning, the air is clean, the life is simple (sometimes), but.....you don't get to appreciate it most of the time, because you spend most of your life just existing, then you get too infirm to work, then you die. Some incomers can make "retirement" work, but then they realise that to live their dreams, they also have to work at it, and most of them cannot do that. Two Winters, then they are gone, and all they leave behind is yet another "new build" inappropriate bit of tat in an inappropriate place on the Isle, now filled with holiday-let tourists. Life is tough here, and that is what makes the landscape as glorious as it might seem on the small screen, but balance that with a lack of infrastructure (essential services like public transport, medical provision, etc) and you can easily see how the whole "retirement" thing can fall apart for so many of them. Once they lose the ability to drive, they may as well be on the 18th floor of a tower-block in London. The indigenous peoples here do not like incomers, because they rarely integrate properly, or stay long-enough to become part of the community. It takes 10years to become accepted, another 10years before you have earned the right to stay!! The only way to fast-track the process is to buy a Post Office..... There's nothing quite like seeing someone's preconceived ideas of idyllic rural life smacking face first in to the unyielding rock of reality. We're rather cursed/blessed with being at the end of the (railway) line from Birmingham to the Welsh coast, so we tend to end up with a lot of folks who come down for a holiday, enjoy themselves and then decide they can sell their house in the big city and enjoy a peaceful life in the country. Type 1 Idiots: They really wanted to buy a quaint cottage on the top of a hill in Cornwall, but they can't afford that so end up buying a house in Mid Wales with neighbours. This means they're continuously annoyed that their dreams aren't coming true, so get very arsey about things like farming traffic and farming smells, or anything else that doesn't match up with their "Escape to the Country" daytime TV fuelled retirement dream. Type 2 Idiots: These are the young types who want to "escape the polluted, awful city" (Suburban Surrey) and move to idyllic, rural Wales. Problem is they think that people drive cars because they don't like public transport, not because its no existent (a car usually turns up within 6 months, unless they're real idiots and don't have a licence between them) and they want to keep working at their work from home journalism job (which Mummy and Daddy got for them) but didn't bother to check if the "bargain property" they've just sank 10x the local average wage in to could get fibre broadband (spoiler: it can't). And lets not forget the complaining whenever there's a utilities fault. The main issue with rural life is that *everything* takes ages to get fixed, but especially electricity and phone lines. That's when both T1 and T2 idiots suddenly realise why every other house has a stack of firewood handy and a logburner that rivals a nuclear reactor for heat output. |
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Post by remmington on Aug 30, 2021 9:28:28 GMT 1
I live in Norfolk. King's Lynn to be precise - if you move to pretty Norfolk avoid King's Lynn - it is a dirty docks town - with a declining shell fish fishing fleet.
We have been blessed/cursed with two types of "Londerners".
1. London overspill in the late 50's 60's amassed in huge sprawling sink council estates in King's Lynn, Thetford and Great Yarmouth. These three towns have a higher crime rate per capita - than London/Manchester/Liverpool. They are some of the most deprived places in the UK.
2. The Range Rover set "down from London lot" in the last 15 years. Buying anything in a pretty village up the North Norfolk coast for a holiday home. Prices of any property in any village is unreal. The only chance a local has of getting a house in a village they were born in - is if they were an only child and their parents die without going into a care home. Nobody on agricultural wages could even buy a rabbit hutch in Norfolk now. Beech huts are a £100k +.
So in a short journey in Norfolk - less than ten miles - you can drive thru the worst run down housing estates covered in grafiti - to the most beautiful renovated holiday homes covered in pastel coloured Farrow & Ball paint - and still hear the same London cockney accent.
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Post by rhyds on Aug 30, 2021 10:24:06 GMT 1
I live in Norfolk. King's Lynn to be precise - if you move to pretty Norfolk avoid King's Lynn - it is a dirty docks town - with a declining shell fish fishing fleet. No joke, but I found King's Lynn rather pleasant when some friends and I ended up heading to Anglia Car Auctions for a bit of a lads weekend. That said, our plans were mainly book in to the Wetherspoons hotel next to the corn exchange, get rather beered up in the Crown and Mitre, head over to the auctions the next day and then go back to the drinkage! |
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Post by Joepublic on Aug 30, 2021 11:01:29 GMT 1
I live in Norfolk. King's Lynn to be precise - if you move to pretty Norfolk avoid King's Lynn - it is a dirty docks town - with a declining shell fish fishing fleet. We have been blessed/cursed with two types of "Londerners". 1. London overspill in the late 50's 60's amassed in huge sprawling sink council estates in King's Lynn, Thetford and Great Yarmouth. These three towns have a higher crime rate per capita - than London/Manchester/Liverpool. They are some of the most deprived places in the UK. 2. The Range Rover set "down from London lot" in the last 15 years. Buying anything in a pretty village up the North Norfolk coast for a holiday home. Prices of any property in any village is unreal. The only chance a local has of getting a house in a village they were born in - is if they were an only child and their parents die without going into a care home. Nobody on agricultural wages could even buy a rabbit hutch in Norfolk now. Beech huts are a £100k +. So in a short journey in Norfolk - less than ten miles - you can drive thru the worst run down housing estates covered in grafiti - to the most beautiful renovated holiday homes covered in pastel coloured Farrow & Ball paint - and still hear the same London cockney accent. ------------------ This will make you laugh - on Saturday early evening I took my dogs and grandchildren up the coast for a paddle - let the dogs run on the beech. I stopped in a village fish and chip shop on the way home - monster queue - about two million pounds worth high spec 4x4's with expensive private number plates parked outside. Rows and rows of brand new Land Rovers - Range Rovers - Discos. I shouted from the back of the queue - "haddock lady please" in my broad Norfolk accent. Old lady serving - called me forward to the front of the queue. Said and I quote "boy can I check you telephone order" - I told her what I wanted and she served me first. I have never been in this chip shop before and never met the lady ever - and I had not rang and preordered. I smiled nicely to her and told my little granddaughter to thank the nice woman. Then she said it "this lot are on holiday they have all the time in the world - they should have rang first - where are you from?". I replied "King's Lynn". The little old lady replied "We have the ones with money and you have the ones without" then smiled and winked at me! I was looking at this even before you posted the above, my other half was born in Kings Lynn but her parents moved back to Liverpool when she was a baby. |
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Post by rhyds on Aug 30, 2021 12:05:09 GMT 1
1. London overspill in the late 50's 60's amassed in huge sprawling sink council estates in King's Lynn, Thetford and Great Yarmouth. These three towns have a higher crime rate per capita - than London/Manchester/Liverpool. They are some of the most deprived places in the UK. This also happens along the North Wales coast. There's loads of towns such as Rhyl, Llandudno and Colwyn Bay that have 100s of former guesthouses which have been turned in to "flats" on the cheap. They're apparently mainly rented out to people on benefits, because if you're going to sit on the dole you might as well do it on the seaside rather than in Liverpool or Manchester. |
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Post by remmington on Aug 30, 2021 12:07:51 GMT 1
I live in Norfolk. King's Lynn to be precise - if you move to pretty Norfolk avoid King's Lynn - it is a dirty docks town - with a declining shell fish fishing fleet. No joke, but I found King's Lynn rather pleasant when some friends and I ended up heading to Anglia Car Auctions for a bit of a lads weekend. That said, our plans were mainly book in to the Wetherspoons hotel next to the corn exchange, get rather beered up in the Crown and Mitre, head over to the auctions the next day and then go back to the drinkage! Tuesday Market Place - and the river front is nice - old and historic. Get out in the suberbs and it degrades - trust me on this. I used to drink in the Crown and Mitre (pre covid). Sailing club two three doors is nice for drink overlooking the river. |
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Post by remmington on Aug 30, 2021 12:11:06 GMT 1
1. London overspill in the late 50's 60's amassed in huge sprawling sink council estates in King's Lynn, Thetford and Great Yarmouth. These three towns have a higher crime rate per capita - than London/Manchester/Liverpool. They are some of the most deprived places in the UK. This also happens along the North Wales coast. There's loads of towns such as Rhyl, Llandudno and Colwyn Bay that have 100s of former guesthouses which have been turned in to "flats" on the cheap. They're apparently mainly rented out to people on benefits, because if you're going to sit on the dole you might as well do it on the seaside rather than in Liverpool or Manchester. Next time you are in Lynn - let me know - I will come help you drink some beer. |
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Post by Rhubarb on Aug 30, 2021 14:10:16 GMT 1
Same problem down here in Lewes...Lovely old county town now overrun with DFLs, tearing around in Audi's Mercs and Chelsea tractors. Average houseprice in my road is now 900thou!! Youngsters here have no chance of owning anything..2 bed terrace with courtyard garden is 350thou.
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Post by Noberator on Aug 30, 2021 14:48:05 GMT 1
I have relations who live in Sheringham.  Not been for 20 years or so and when my Auntie and Uncle where with us house prices where classed as reasonable but not anymore.  House recently sold in their row for £475k. |
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Post by wightdiag on Aug 30, 2021 15:30:13 GMT 1
Doesn't seem to happen so much here on the island. Anyone DFL on hols has just paid £200+ for a ferry ticket so are introduced to the realities that way ! Thought I would go and check prices... here you go return ferry to the island in a car.
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Post by Joepublic on Aug 30, 2021 17:12:39 GMT 1
Doesn't seem to happen so much here on the island. Anyone DFL on hols has just paid £200+ for a ferry ticket so are introduced to the realities that way ! Thought I would go and check prices... here you go return ferry to the island in a car. My mum and dad love IOW B&B holidays when I was a kid, not been for 40+ years now.... |
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Post by Noberator on Aug 30, 2021 21:55:50 GMT 1
I have relations who live in Sheringham. Not been for 20 years or so and when my Auntie and Uncle where with us house prices where classed as reasonable but not anymore. House recently sold in their row for £475k. I have a holiday home in Southwold in Suffolk. Paid £120k for it in the late 1990's - white painted bungalow thing. I want to retire to Sheringham - a two bedroom terraced house with a parking space is now over £550k - you could buy the same thing in my home town of King's Lynn - 30miles away for £120-140k. Not sure how much my family house is worth now - maybe lots in village in Norfolk. River frontage - lots of bedrooms - two double garages... How long for - I don't know...? Would rather retire to North Norfolk than Spain or Portugal.... Half a million pound terraced houses in sea front Norfolk is not a silly asking price now.... Does it still have the clock tower and the little theatre at the bottom of Station road?  They where improving the Sheringham sea defences I seem to remember around 1996 ish at the bottom of the road where they used to live. Literally round the corner the beech and walk not to far to the Life boat station if it's still their? |
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Post by Karl on Aug 31, 2021 16:57:23 GMT 1
Why do you think general workers are starting to twitch about low pay
Because it isn’t going very far
£10-13 to drive a big rig for a living on long hours , often not knowing if you are gonna be home for tea
When you can earn the same in easier positions
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