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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 20:56:05 GMT 1
You are in the same position as every other motorist who has had good service out of a vehicle - then it fails.
Your problem is compounded by the fact you need it for work.
As a vehicle repairer - I see this all the while. Taxis - builders - butchers - bakers and candle stick makers.
The point I made was - a running vehicle is part of your business expenditure. You need one. You need a good van - you need a van that works. This costs money - and should be accounted for - budgeted for - it is normal expenditure for a business - renewing things that are worn out. I have to do it - I don't like it - but if I am to continue trading - it is what I have to do!
Why are you - looking at a tired £1850 T4 van - you should of been putting aside a £100 a week for the next van - this is probably the real cost of providing a van for work. Scary I know...
The reason I don't have new vans for work is - we don't do huge mileage in them - we knock them about - plus we are vehicle repairers and the repair costs are lower for us.
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Post by Joepublic on Feb 17, 2020 20:56:38 GMT 1
Speak to your accountant, he'll tell you how much you'll actually pay after that bill goes through the books, it might not seem too bad then? |
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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 21:06:34 GMT 1
Speak to your accountant, he'll tell you how much you'll actually pay after that bill goes through the books, it might not seem too bad then? If you are a sole trader and not VAT registered - you can knock 29% off that bill - in real terms. But you can knock the same percentage off a newer van in the first year as capital expenditure (if it is a commercial vehicle - not for a car). |
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Post by spud on Feb 17, 2020 21:14:30 GMT 1
You are in the same position as every other motorist who has had good service out of a vehicle - then it fails. Your problem is compounded by the fact you need it for work. As a vehicle repairer - I see this all the while. Taxis - builders - butchers - bakers and candle stick makers. The point I made was - a running vehicle is part of your business expenditure. You need one. You need a good van - you need a van that works. This costs money - and should be accounted for - budgeted for - it is normal expenditure for a business - renewing things that are worn out. I have to do it - I don't like it - but if I am to continue trading - it is what I have to do! Why are you - looking at a tired £1850 T4 van - you should of been putting aside a £100 a week for the next van - this is probably the real cost of providing a van for work. Scary I know... The reason I don't have new vans for work is - we don't do huge mileage in them - we knock them about - plus we are vehicle repairers and the repair costs are lower for us. i do 6k a year so i dont do high miles either hence keeping vehicles longer than i should i could go out and buy a 17 plate relay but its 2 foot longer than my transit  some of the places i go i would never park all my other tools get replaced every 3 to 5 years but as you say the vans been overlooked but swb med roof dosnt seam easy to come by these days so im more tempted to repair im only looking at the VW as a stop gap while mine is repaired could be 5 weeks until it is done ! |
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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 21:21:31 GMT 1
VW Crafter - they do a SWB Medium high roof model.
We had a 2.5 2008 one (sold now).
VW T4 and T5 vans - make silly money - best avoided.
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Post by spud on Feb 17, 2020 21:35:36 GMT 1
VW Crafter - they do a SWB Medium high roof model. We had a 2.5 2008 one (sold now). VW T4 and T5 vans - make silly money - best avoided. they easy to find i cant find one lol seams that mwb mid roof is a much more popular choice over all the makes Think what makes this worse for me is ive messed up like you say should have replaced it before this but now im thinking rest of the van is solid so i may as well get it done also got it all racked out how i like. There is also my well meaning but dam anoying mechanic friend in my ear saying ohh i wouldnt buy that everytime i think of a van i might like ! all this dpf doom an gloom because of my low miles |
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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 21:52:19 GMT 1
I hear this all the while...
It's all signwritten up - it is racked out. Mostly from my customers justifying the £4k+ bill they are paying me for an engine.
There is a pretty poor choice of vans on the market at the moment. I really would not know what do buy new - if money was no object.
You are right to fear low mileage and diesel DPF's. I fear it...
We are doing less than 5000 miles a year in a Euro 6 - 2.0 VW Crafter. Last long trip I had to go on - I took this van instead of my new X5 - just to give the van a long hot run at speed.
Most gardeners - lads who are doing ground maintenance - have crew cab tipper transits - remove the rear seats - secure up the passenger area with metal on the inside of the rear glass - fit greedy boards to the tipper buck - and tow a wood chipper type thing. Before Xmas - I fitted a new Kubuto engine to one of these - that was not cheap either.
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Post by spud on Feb 17, 2020 22:13:41 GMT 1
blo*dy things only 9 though to  even you would still have it  i get what you are saying and appreciate the help vans allways worked out better for me i do mostly domestic work not vast quantities of waste to get rid of usually also use it as my car the wife dosnt drive so seams little point in having a car really the signs and racking are probably only about 300 quids worth of vinyl and ply to be honest so fair point there id not even get the next one signed up never got me much if any work to be honest there is however the fact that i can put the 4k through the books this year unlike if i get a new van ( unless i am mistaken on that ? ) |
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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 22:17:45 GMT 1
blo*dy things only 9 though to even you would still have it i get what you are saying and appreciate the help vans allways worked out better for me i do mostly domestic work not vast quantities of waste to get rid of usually also use it as my car the wife dosnt drive so seams little point in having a car really the signs and racking are probably only about 300 quids worth of vinyl and ply to be honest so fair point there id not even get the next one signed up never got me much if any work to be honest there is however the fact that i can put the 4k through the books this year unlike if i get a new van ( unless i am mistaken on that ? ) Oh yes you can put the £4k thru the books in one lump - any capital expenditure is claimable - anything you use for work - from toilet roll to van engines. |
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Post by spud on Feb 17, 2020 22:23:25 GMT 1
blo*dy things only 9 though to even you would still have it i get what you are saying and appreciate the help vans allways worked out better for me i do mostly domestic work not vast quantities of waste to get rid of usually also use it as my car the wife dosnt drive so seams little point in having a car really the signs and racking are probably only about 300 quids worth of vinyl and ply to be honest so fair point there id not even get the next one signed up never got me much if any work to be honest there is however the fact that i can put the 4k through the books this year unlike if i get a new van ( unless i am mistaken on that ? ) Oh yes you can put the £4k thru the books in one lump - any capital expenditure is claimable - anything you use for work - from toilet roll to van engines.well theres that then i would honestly if the price wasnt so so stupid go out and get myself an electric van i feel it would suit me down to the ground all local short trips and ive allready replaced 90% of my 2 stroke kit with battery and ive even got 2 battery mowers now to ! they are nearly as good as my etesias and so so light to lift |
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Post by Joepublic on Feb 17, 2020 22:41:14 GMT 1
blo*dy things only 9 though to even you would still have it i get what you are saying and appreciate the help vans allways worked out better for me i do mostly domestic work not vast quantities of waste to get rid of usually also use it as my car the wife dosnt drive so seams little point in having a car really the signs and racking are probably only about 300 quids worth of vinyl and ply to be honest so fair point there id not even get the next one signed up never got me much if any work to be honest there is however the fact that i can put the 4k through the books this year unlike if i get a new van ( unless i am mistaken on that ? ) Oh yes you can put the £4k thru the books in one lump - any capital expenditure is claimable - anything you use for work - from toilet roll to van engines.Can you also put through the books depreciation of assets? |
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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 22:44:13 GMT 1
My god - I can see the new sign writing on the new electric van.
"The green gardener" - environmentally friendly all electric gardener (yellow light bulb at the end with filament showing).
I charge more money - because it costs more to not kill the earth! Work in a environmental fashion - all rubbish recycled.
I am cutting your lawn with electricity and so I don't kill or drown your grandchildren with rising sea levels.
It would work...
But I reckon the flaw for you would be the electric van - they are pooh...
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Post by spud on Feb 17, 2020 22:54:22 GMT 1
My god - I can see the new sign writing on the new electric van. "The green gardener" - environmentally friendly all electric gardener (yellow light bulb at the end with filament showing).
I charge more money - because it costs more to not kill the earth! Work in a environmental fashion - all rubbish recycled. I am cutting your lawn with electricity and so I don't kill or drown your grandchildren with rising sea levels. It would work... But I reckon the flaw for you would be the electric van - they are pooh... you joke but those type of gardeners are allready out there there is one i know of had a part electric bike thing he gets about on i only went green for the sake of my health all those 2 stroke fumes right up in me face were going me no favors after a day hedge cutting the mower was just for the few terraced houses i do but its that good ive used it alot an even got another slightly bigger for this season stihl have come along way with the range now an the weight compared to petrol is fantastic to ! |
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Post by remmington on Feb 17, 2020 23:00:12 GMT 1
My god - I can see the new sign writing on the new electric van. "The green gardener" - environmentally friendly all electric gardener (yellow light bulb at the end with filament showing).
I charge more money - because it costs more to not kill the earth! Work in a environmental fashion - all rubbish recycled. I am cutting your lawn with electricity and so I don't kill or drown your grandchildren with rising sea levels. It would work... But I reckon the flaw for you would be the electric van - they are pooh... you joke but those type of gardeners are allready out there there is one i know of had a part electric bike thing he gets about on i only went green for the sake of my health all those 2 stroke fumes right up in me face were going me no favors after a day hedge cutting the mower was just for the few terraced houses i do but its that good ive used it alot an even got another slightly bigger for this season stihl have come along way with the range now an the weight compared to petrol is fantastic to ! I was not joking - I was looking for an angle to charge more money... You have a valid point about two stroke fumes in your face - Stihl have come a long way - I used a small electric battery MSA 161 T Arborist chainsaw the other week - it was really good - I was really impressed. If only Stihl made cars... |
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some of the places i go i would never park all my other tools get replaced every 3 to 5 years but as you say the vans been overlooked but swb med roof dosnt seam easy to come by these days so im more tempted to repair 
even you would still have it 
i get what you are saying and appreciate the help vans allways worked out better for me i do mostly domestic work not vast quantities of waste to get rid of usually also use it as my car the wife dosnt drive so seams little point in having a car really the signs and racking are probably only about 300 quids worth of vinyl and ply to be honest so fair point there id not even get the next one signed up never got me much if any work to be honest there is however the fact that i can put the 4k through the books this year unlike if i get a new van ( unless i am mistaken on that ? )