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Post by dooroy on Jan 9, 2016 21:40:13 GMT 1
A friend of mine has a 2006 Nissan Primastar 1.9 and the starter has packed up.
I also notice that the ignition switch does not 'spring back ' from the start position - think starter may have stayed engaged and now wrecked.
The van is parked on his driveway and I was hoping to remove the starter - put it up on stands etc.
However I was reading some posts which would suggest it would be next to impossible , others said it is doable.
Would appreciate any opinions from anyone who has actually carried out this and how difficult it really is.
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Post by valhalla on Jan 9, 2016 21:48:05 GMT 1
Assuming the Nissan does not deviate too far from the Vivaro in bodywork, then this should be possible, even without jacking, although I found that the Vivaro I was working-on benefitted from a few extra inches under the front. The main thing is to strip as much out of the engine bay that will easily unbolt/unscrew, then the job doesn't look all that difficult.
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Post by dooroy on Jan 9, 2016 21:55:50 GMT 1
The Primastar / Vivaro/ Trafic are all the same I understand - and having done some work on them them it would appear to be the case .
Have taken engines out of 2 Trafics but have not changed a starter on its own.
Removing cat etc - as mentioned in some posts - could be a problem on a vehicle of that age.
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Post by french crap fanatic on Jan 10, 2016 1:05:34 GMT 1
Perfectly possible to do it on the floor,you need a creeper or cardboard.
Get it on stand,both front wheels off.
If your like me,then have plenty of rag handy,I wipe sumps etc as I'm working under vehicles to stop oil from dripping on me!
Think I take a turbo pipe pipe off as well.
If possible,get the van nice and hot before working on it,I find esp this time of year,it helps with undoing bolts.
I think you can undo the 13mm nut for feed fire from here as well,8mm can be undone once starter is loose and dangling.
Join up all your extentions and get to the top 13mm bolt from behind cat,whilst your in o s wheel arch.
The well that the bottom 13mm bolt goes into,will prob be full of water,do watch out for this when undoing bolt.
I sometimes soak it up with a rag or drill a hole in gearbox webbing to drain it,it's only ally!
You don't need to take cat off,the starter will wiggle out from around it,just!
Get the metal plate out tho,it helps a lot.
Last of all,on refitting,start all bolts before tightening,the amount of times ave tightend two,and third won't start!!
Good luck with the weather!
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Post by dooroy on Jan 10, 2016 1:52:29 GMT 1
Thanks for the comprehensive reply fcf - just what I wanted  . Have the cardboard , stands, plenty of extensions etc and the weather outlook isn't too bad  . As we have been literally washed away over the past number of weeks I'm hoping the dry(ish) spell promised will hold out. Was considering tow starting the van to get it onto a lift somewhere - if job sounded too difficult on the ground . |
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Post by french crap fanatic on Jan 10, 2016 2:11:59 GMT 1
Thanks for the comprehensive reply fcf - just what I wanted . Have the cardboard , stands, plenty of extensions etc and the weather outlook isn't too bad . As we have been literally washed away over the past number of weeks I'm hoping the dry(ish) spell promised will hold out. Was considering tow starting the van to get it onto a lift somewhere - if job sounded too difficult on the ground . If it were me,I'd def start it first,get it running,to prove it works and like I said,I like working on warm vehicles. I got two lines mixed up. Get to starter top bolt and feed wire from behind cat,using long extentions joined together. Obviously disconnect battery first. The starter for these is slimline,cos it has to fit through gap between gearbox and cat,so make sure replacement is same size or slimmer than original. |
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Post by dooroy on Jan 10, 2016 15:25:18 GMT 1
Weather outlook not good so going to try to start it and move it - words like sleet , snow showers , gale force winds would suggest to at least get it under cover even if not on a lift . Important point re size of starter - could save a lot of grief  . Thanks for all your help . |
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Post by mayfly on Jan 11, 2016 18:40:52 GMT 1
Have done them in the past , can't remember any great difficulty . You mentioned the ignition switch sticking ,this seem to be a common problem with these especially if it's a builders van or someone with a lot of dust related work. A shot of spray into the lock should solve this.
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Post by dooroy on Jan 12, 2016 2:36:58 GMT 1
Got it started and under cover ; on the 4 poster but as it has a very high roofrack and my roof not very high its not ideal but better than outside .
Have the starter out - removed front section of exhaust and plate between cat and block , access then pretty good - long extensions needed of course.
The problem with the ignition switch is that when you turn it the last bit to engage starter it doesn't 'spring' back of its own accord.I think that may be what destroyed the starter - it remained engaged. So switch being changed also .
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Post by sorted on Mar 16, 2016 21:25:00 GMT 1
Pardon??
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Post by remmington on Mar 16, 2016 22:32:21 GMT 1
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Post by Karl on Mar 16, 2016 22:54:27 GMT 1
Whoops phones been in my pocket !
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