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Post by cuthbert on Jun 2, 2015 8:52:18 GMT 1
Hi, do the electric power steering motors on the column have to be programmed?
There is conflicting opinions and I can't get to the bottom of it
Thanks all
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Post by Noberator on Jun 2, 2015 11:54:39 GMT 1
Hi, do the electric power steering motors on the column have to be programmed? There is conflicting opinions and I can't get to the bottom of it Thanks all The answer is yes and no it depends which route you take. A brand new unit I believe would have to be programmed but if you have your original unit repaired the unit will automatically programme itself to the vehicle upon installation this will only work if the vehicles factory fitted immobiliser system is fully functional. Clearing of fault codes and professional diagnostic checks should be carried out following installation anyway to check no software issues. |
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Post by cuthbert on Jun 2, 2015 16:12:32 GMT 1
Thanks very much
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Post by cranky on Oct 22, 2016 7:04:07 GMT 1
New or virginised units, will self code. Sometimes need keys reprogramming to get them to do so. If you get your own unit repaired, then the immo coding will still be correct for your car and no programming needed.
I realise that this is an old post, but the next bit of info could become relevant to some on here.
A secondhand unit does need programming. However, if just plug it in, the car will run fine. This is the same on the modus and clios too. The problem comes when the battery goes flat, or is disconnected. The engine ecu then realises the steering column immo code doesn't match and the immobiliser stays active and won't even allow cranking.
So a garage could be doing a clutch, or even just a simple battery change, put everything back together and it not run. Trying to work out what they have done, when really nothing to do with them. Try explaining that to a customer, especially if the column was changed prior to them buying the car!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 13:20:34 GMT 1
What is it that actually fails on these Micra columns ? Are they repairable ?
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Post by french crap fanatic on Oct 22, 2016 14:38:49 GMT 1
What is it that actually fails on these Micra columns ? Are they repairable ? the motor itself goes,but cos its linked to the immobiliser system its coded. i got burned big time last year,when a key less micra k12 went down,i got a recon unit from my usual repaires,its failed after 3 months,the replacement wouldnt let the car start,it went to nissan in the end who charegd 1400 quid to s+f a new one.# the cutomer paid that amount and i had to give him back 700 quid. i never did get my money back on the faulty recon part!!! |
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Post by valhalla on Oct 22, 2016 22:49:09 GMT 1
New or virginised units, will self code. Sometimes need keys reprogramming to get them to do so. If you get your own unit repaired, then the immo coding will still be correct for your car and no programming needed. I realise that this is an old post, but the next bit of info could become relevant to some on here. A secondhand unit does need programming. However, if just plug it in, the car will run fine. This is the same on the modus and clios too. The problem comes when the battery goes flat, or is disconnected. The engine ecu then realises the steering column immo code doesn't match and the immobiliser stays active and won't even allow cranking. So a garage could be doing a clutch, or even just a simple battery change, put everything back together and it not run. Trying to work out what they have done, when really nothing to do with them. Try explaining that to a customer, especially if the column was changed prior to them buying the car! Sounds like a warning notice on the battery would be in order for any ethical garage, at least the car would still be going for a proper fix at a later date.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 17:29:28 GMT 1
What is it that actually fails on these Micra columns ? Are they repairable ? the motor itself goes,but cos its linked to the immobiliser system its coded. i got burned big time last year,when a key less micra k12 went down,i got a recon unit from my usual repaires,its failed after 3 months,the replacement wouldnt let the car start,it went to nissan in the end who charegd 1400 quid to s+f a new one.# the cutomer paid that amount and i had to give him back 700 quid. i never did get my money back on the faulty recon part!!! Is it just the keyless version that has this problem ? I've seen a few go for scrap after becoming non-starters. Key man couldn't sort em. They must have had new column fitted previously. Best place for em really, K12s........hateful things. |
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Post by french crap fanatic on Oct 25, 2016 19:00:03 GMT 1
the motor itself goes,but cos its linked to the immobiliser system its coded. i got burned big time last year,when a key less micra k12 went down,i got a recon unit from my usual repaires,its failed after 3 months,the replacement wouldnt let the car start,it went to nissan in the end who charegd 1400 quid to s+f a new one.# the cutomer paid that amount and i had to give him back 700 quid. i never did get my money back on the faulty recon part!!! Is it just the keyless version that has this problem ? I've seen a few go for scrap after becoming non-starters. Key man couldn't sort em. They must have had new column fitted previously. Best place for em really, K12s........hateful things. yes,the keyless one. these micras and a handfull of cars,my key guy cannot do. |
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Post by valhalla on Oct 26, 2016 0:10:58 GMT 1
There's a K12 close-by in my glen, strange lady drives it, totally out of her comfort zone (high-heels, that sort of thing....  ). Anyway, she mentioned a while back that she had a problem with it, and I earned myself no business when I retorted, "Yes, you've got a problem alright......nobody's going to touch it with a barge-pole this side of Sunderland".  |
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Post by Noberator on Oct 26, 2016 0:25:46 GMT 1
There's a K12 close-by in my glen, strange lady drives it, totally out of her comfort zone . Anyway, she mentioned a while back that she had a problem with it, and I earned myself no business when I retorted, "Yes, you've got a problem alright......nobody's going to touch it with a barge-pole this side of Sunderland".   This barge pole did she think you were on about her or the car she might be offended.   Ugly things the K12 and the K13 aint much prettier is it.  |
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). Anyway, she mentioned a while back that she had a problem with it, and I earned myself no business when I retorted, "Yes, you've got a problem alright......nobody's going to touch it with a barge-pole this side of Sunderland".
