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Post by pug308 on Apr 29, 2015 12:03:34 GMT 1
Hi all,
As I was joining a motorway the other day at around 3000 revs my engine lost power and my dashboard flashed the message 'AntiPollution System Fault'. After around 10 minutes sat on the hard shoulder the car restarted and was okay getting to work.
I filled my tank up with Biodiesel the day before and overnight the temperature was around 1c. I presumed it could have been something to do with the biodiesel so I topped up my fuel with regular diesel and used some of the redex additive hoping it would help!
Since then the car seems fine (touch wood) and the engine fault like has now gone off. I've plugged a friends cheap code reader into the car and got the codes...
P0093 - Fuel System Leak Detected Large Leak
P0087 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure Too Low
I've called a garage and they have said the reader I used is cheap and unreliable (which it was cheap) and that they can do a thorough scan and tell me whats wrong within 20 minutes with their diagnostics tool, all for £50.
Is it that quick of a diagnosis with the right tools?
Thanks
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Also worth mentioning, the car is 09 plate and has 80k on the clock, was last serviced 3 months ago.
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Post by rhyds on Apr 29, 2015 12:06:00 GMT 1
First of all, what kind of biodiesel was it and where did you get it?
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Post by pug308 on Apr 29, 2015 12:10:08 GMT 1
It's from a local garage Rhyds, I couldnt tell you what type of biodiesel sorry, different types isn't something I was aware of, their website is here... www.fuller-fuel.co.uk/ |
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Post by Karl on Apr 29, 2015 13:25:46 GMT 1
You say serviced 3 months ago , but when was the fuel filter last changed ?
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Post by pug308 on Apr 29, 2015 13:37:40 GMT 1
Apparently it was included with the full service KarlB
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Post by rhyds on Apr 29, 2015 13:46:26 GMT 1
It's from a local garage Rhyds, I couldnt tell you what type of biodiesel sorry, different types isn't something I was aware of, their website is here... www.fuller-fuel.co.uk/"Biodiesel" covers everything from a commercial/proper supplier like you've linked to all the way down to dodgy dave filtering chip fat in a lockup. I was worried you'd used "homebrew" stuff, which can easily damage a common rail diesel. |
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Post by pug308 on Apr 29, 2015 13:58:24 GMT 1
haha nah it was from a proper place, I'm still skeptical but it's so cheap!
So is 20 minutes long enough for a garage to diagnose the problem?
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Post by Monkey on Apr 29, 2015 17:43:54 GMT 1
haha nah it was from a proper place, I'm still skeptical but it's so cheap! So is 20 minutes long enough for a garage to diagnose the problem? A quick scan and a guess, yes! Not properly no! |
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Post by french crap fanatic on Apr 29, 2015 18:45:29 GMT 1
I'm guessing it's a 1.6 hdi
If you've never had any problems before then I'm guessing the car don't like the bio diesel
How much is left in the tank?have you got anyway of getting it out?
For £50 they will plug a scanner in,but tbh looks like you've got the likely fault codes already.
I'd advise that you take it back to the people that serviced it and aske for their advice,tell them the truth.
If it's running properly now then I wouldn't worry too much just don't use bio init again.
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Post by upkeep on Apr 30, 2015 7:03:39 GMT 1
haha nah it was from a proper place, I'm still skeptical but it's so cheap! So is 20 minutes long enough for a garage to diagnose the problem? Not so cheap now...leave well alone in modern diesels. Anyway due to that one eyed Scottish tw*t Gordon Brown all Diesels will soon be worthless. |
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Post by Rhubarb on Apr 30, 2015 8:59:30 GMT 1
Had a similar problem with a Pug 406 a few years back...
Owner had been running it on Bio...It randomly lost power and/or conked out...Other times it performed near normal..
Fuel filter seal was letting air in..The seal was deformed..
New seal and fuel filter and running it on regular derv solved the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 22:30:36 GMT 1
haha nah it was from a proper place, I'm still skeptical but it's so cheap! So is 20 minutes long enough for a garage to diagnose the problem? A quick scan and a guess, yes! Not properly no! Plug in wait for boot up put wrong car in lose comms get some data that looks ok --guess , £ 50..  |
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Post by valhalla on Apr 30, 2015 23:09:06 GMT 1
haha nah it was from a proper place, I'm still skeptical but it's so cheap! So is 20 minutes long enough for a garage to diagnose the problem? Anyway due to that one eyed Scottish tw*t Gordon Brown all Diesels will soon be worthless. You will never find a manufacturer's handbook that says, "Please feel free to fill your expensive and incredibly accurately machined fuel system with any c**p that has fails to meet the demands of EN580 (or any other specification) just to prove that our Engineers that developed this system were wrong when they refused to sign-off said c**p for production vehicles". |
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Post by wheelnut on May 1, 2015 0:13:35 GMT 1
... my dashboard flashed the message 'AntiPollution System Fault'... ------ ... has 80k on the clock... That seems like the message you get when the eolys fluid is running low and that generally happens around 70k to 80k miles. |
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Post by pug308 on May 1, 2015 9:07:16 GMT 1
Thanks for the advice everyone, I've cancelled the diagnostics at the garage saying they can tell me whats wrong in 20 mins - would you recommend find a reputable garage and leave it with them for the day or shall I clear the codes myself and see if they return?
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