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Post by rhyds on Apr 29, 2019 21:44:02 GMT 1
Thanks for all the replies, looks like I keep the Rover lump then, it’s a 3.9 with a pretty new 4 barrel Edelbrock carb on an Offenhauser low profile manifold which means I can use a standard bonnet. Injection may be an option later but requires machining work or a nasty bonnet bulge, and to be frank it seems plenty quick as it is. Yes Rhyds it does sit a couple of inches high at the front but never noticed a handling issue. That said I bought a set of springs from a specialist a while ago which are made for the Rover engine and have now reassembled the overhauled struts with these and poly bushes, new dampers, bearings etc. Sounds like you've got a nicely sorted engine there. I'd personally not bother with injection unless it was a daily driver, the Edelbrock unit is generally reliable (from what I remember of old issues of Street Machine!) and if you need extra power then there's probably more scope in a cam swap and the like (is the engine otherwise standard?) or even just a quick replacement of any tired components on the standard Rover block. As for the suspension it doesn't surprise me that there's a kit for the Rover engined cars. Triumph spares backup has always been good, and the alloy V8 has been a popular swap for years so it makes sense the two things would combine to produce tailored suspension.
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Post by studabear on Apr 29, 2019 22:02:24 GMT 1
First garage I worked at 23 years ago specialized in classics at the time, they had a lot of MG-B, Midgets, TR6 and a few Stags while I was there, one of which had a Rover V8 back then.
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Post by valhalla on Apr 29, 2019 22:51:24 GMT 1
She looks gorgeous - I wish all my classics looked as good as that "before" shot...... I just don't have the time at the moment.
The only car I ever refused to do the sills on (before I "retired" up to Skye) was a Stag. The car in question looked good, but I knew that under the skin it was not all plain-sailing, and some short-cuts had been taken in the past. I explained to the work colleague who owned the car, and wanted me to replace the sills, that I was just not confident of the work I could do. Stag sills are complicated, and I knew at the time that they need specialist knowledge and experience to get them right. I also explained to the owner that I wouldn't, or couldn't, do a "halfway house job"; if I found a general disaster under there, I would have committed myself to repairing everything else - which I suspected to be quite a lot on that particular car.
The owner tried to lend me the car for a weekend, just to convince me to take the job on, but I couldn't be convinced. I was a bit more experienced in "saying NO" back then.....
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Post by upkeep on Apr 30, 2019 18:18:01 GMT 1
Stag engine or it ain't proper just a mongrel.
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Post by Noberator on Apr 30, 2019 22:40:43 GMT 1
Stag engine or it ain't proper just a mongrel. Noooooooooooo the only good thing about the Triumph engine is the sound not worth all that trouble are they compared to the Rover V8. Read this link it will explain then tell me a Triumph engine is proper.
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Post by upkeep on May 1, 2019 7:48:04 GMT 1
I think I am well qualified to comment on the Stag and Rover V8 as I worked on them for some ten years and many of the Stags issues could have been addressed even in the 70's with the available technology but as there was no money but they kept churning them out with the faults along with all the other poor quality rubbish BL was producing.
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Post by Noberator on May 3, 2019 14:29:47 GMT 1
I think I am well qualified to comment on the Stag and Rover V8 as I worked on them for some ten years and many of the Stags issues could have been addressed even in the 70's with the available technology but as there was no money but they kept churning them out with the faults along with all the other poor quality rubbish BL was producing. My last post wasn't meant to be personnel so if it came across as being so I apologise. Did Triumph not spend a large amount of money re-manufacturing the Triumph 2.5 engine for this Stag?
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Post by upkeep on May 3, 2019 14:37:28 GMT 1
I think I am well qualified to comment on the Stag and Rover V8 as I worked on them for some ten years and many of the Stags issues could have been addressed even in the 70's with the available technology but as there was no money but they kept churning them out with the faults along with all the other poor quality rubbish BL was producing. My last post wasn't meant to be personnel so if it came across as being so I apologise. Did Triumph not spend a large amount of money re-manufacturing the Triumph 2.5 engine for this Stag? Don't worry about that, it's just you could see the potential in many of the products but let down by build quality and design it was soul destroying replacing parts that were of equally poor quality.Not sure on the 2.5 thought that turned into the 2.6 SD1 engine, but it was along time ago.
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Post by Noberator on May 3, 2019 14:51:48 GMT 1
My last post wasn't meant to be personnel so if it came across as being so I apologise. Did Triumph not spend a large amount of money re-manufacturing the Triumph 2.5 engine for this Stag? Don't worry about that, it's just you could see the potential in many of the products but let down by build quality and design it was soul destroying replacing parts that were of equally poor quality.Not sure on the 2.5 thought that turned into the 2.6 SD1 engine, but it was along time ago. Does this Triumph V8 3 Litre engine have a cast iron block and aluminium cylinder heads with a single overhead cam per bank. IMO Triumph definately missed out against the competion back then.
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Post by upkeep on May 3, 2019 15:00:15 GMT 1
think it was an iron block should have been 32 valve that would have been awesome. obviouly with the bugs ironed out.
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Post by sorted on May 3, 2019 21:18:46 GMT 1
Yes it was an iron block which is why it’s so much heavier then the Rover.
Despite all their issues it’s hard to find a complete one for less than £1500 and then another £500 for an overdrive gearbox. That’s £2k I can spend on the restoration and they would probably still need work, so will stick with Rover engine and box. I fitted them because when I got the car 15 years ago it had no drivetrain. But I did take care to make mounts that pick up on all the original points, exhaust is standard except manifolds and downpipes, gear-lever uses original hole etc. So if in the future I found a Triumph setup to put in it would be a nut and bolt job only plus hoses and reverse some wiring tweaks.
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Post by sorted on Aug 26, 2019 20:54:39 GMT 1
Well I’ve not been very good at posting updates, but the work has continued and today I came to that point where I don’t seem to have anything left to weld! The underneath is ready for Gravitex and the inside is ready for primer. Although I’ll sand down the outside first of course, not expecting to find anything too bad as the outer panels were always good on this one and I’m assuming if there’s no rust coming through in the 15 years I’ve had it then it’s probably solid. So far I’ve fitted all 4 floor pans, boot floor, made numerous repair panels not so much due to rust but to get rid of the big flat patches someone did the last time it was restored and get the seams back where they should be. Also new front outriggers and chassis repairs where the previous homemade outriggers where bodged on. So far I am way ahead of where I expected to be by now, let’s see if that continues! Attachments:
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Post by spud on Aug 26, 2019 22:04:53 GMT 1
nice work love to see old stuff fixed up a new customer i took on this year has been working on an etype nice to see the amazeing progress every other week when im there not sure if its being done for a customer or one of there own projects
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Post by chippie on Sept 11, 2019 12:16:36 GMT 1
Just been watching wheeler dealers on Quest..
They bought a stag for £3400...Mike bought an uprated rad for it to combat the overheating issue....
What really surprised me was when his chum undid the bottom hose, how cruddy the water looked that came out! He then went on to fit the rad/new hoses without flushing the system!!
Are these guys for real? Or just plain stupid
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Post by sorted on Sept 19, 2019 21:53:58 GMT 1
Just been watching wheeler dealers on Quest.. They bought a stag for £3400...Mike bought an uprated rad for it to combat the overheating issue.... What really surprised me was when his chum undid the bottom hose, how cruddy the water looked that came out! He then went on to fit the rad/new hoses without flushing the system!! Are these guys for real? Or just plain stupid Yes I saw that one, rubbish really, changed main hoses and left the heater hoses and other small ones, including the one to the expansion bottle which looked really ropey
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