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Post by focusman on Mar 18, 2015 19:17:41 GMT 1
Hi,
I have an 03 plate 1.6 Focus which has developed a driver's side window problem. I can hear the mechanism "click" but there's no attempt for the window to move either up or down. I suspect that this is a mechanical problem rather than an electrical one due to the "click". I started stripping the door down this afternoon with the "help" (?? !!!) of Mr Haynes, but am now faced with a dilemna - apparently to remove the window regulator mechanism, you have to remove the window glass. To remove the window glass, you have to lower the window so that the two retaining bolts become accessible through the door frame aperatures. You can therefore see my "catch 22" situation !!
Does anyone know how to lower the window "mechanically", or has anybody any other solution to my problem ?
Appreciate any help !
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Post by Karl on Mar 18, 2015 20:18:43 GMT 1
With looking at the set up.....
I would attempt to remove the motor, then you should be able to manually push the glass down.
Assuming the regulator hasn't jammed/seized
Sounds like it's normally the window regulator
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Post by focusman on Mar 18, 2015 21:15:55 GMT 1
With looking at the set up..... I would attempt to remove the motor, then you should be able to manually push the glass down. Assuming the regulator hasn't jammed/seized Sounds like it's normally the window regulator Hi Karl, Thanks for the reply - I'll try that tomorrow !! (My mind WAS working along those lines .... !) I assume there is some sort of gearbox between the motor and the transmission wires - will the motor separate from the gearbox in situ ? ( Unfortunately, Haynes doesn't cover this) Is it obvious what bolts hold the thing together ? Thanks again ! |
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Post by mk10 on Mar 19, 2015 9:30:42 GMT 1
Hi they have two 10mm bolts on each window channel that are usually hidden behind the foam covering on the door. Undo those bolts and the bolts securing the motor and disconnect wiring and jiggle everything free. The glass can now be pulled down and you will see the two clamps holding the glass to the regulator, undo and pull glass back up to close position secure with gaffer tape. Wiggle the regulator out and do reverse of what you have done.  |
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Post by focusman on Mar 19, 2015 14:05:37 GMT 1
Hi Karl and mk10,
Only just got your post mk10 - actually got it out this morning !!
I DID unscrew the 4 bolts holding the motor to the regulator frame, but was a little worried as the electrical connector was "on the other side". With all 4 bolts out, the motor would move a bit, but wouldn't come out - so I abandoned that approach !
I then removed all 5 bolts securing the regulator to the door frame, and got a spanner into the door void and loosened off the two bolts clamping the glass to the regulator. Each of the frame sliders can then be rotated to allow the glass more room to move, and got it low enough to withdraw the glass !!!
Unfortunately, I managed to break one of the plastic bits that guide the glass down, so that wasn't good. Haven't investigated what caused the original problem yet, but suspect I'll be off to a breaker's yard fairly soon ............ !! (Making wooden blocks to hold the glass in place for the interim !!!)
Many thanks to both !l
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 15:44:38 GMT 1
Some people state they have got the motor going by tapping it  thats never worked for me ,its always been the cables / drive |
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Post by focusman on Mar 19, 2015 22:55:35 GMT 1
Some people state they have got the motor going by tapping it thats never worked for me ,its always been the cables / drive Hi mac, Whilst separating the motor from the regulator frame, I found higher tension on one side than on the other. Connected the motor and it runs fine ! Move the glass lifters by hand and then suddenly everything was free !!! I guess it must have been over-driven and jammed. Does the motor have some sort of clutch to stop it driving "past the end" or what ? (Managed to "repair" the broken guide by a bit of plastic "welding" with a soldering iron and a bit of spare plastic as a "filler" !! It survived the strain of refitting to the rail, so I'm optimistic !! Will slap the whole thing back and see how we go - definitely leaving that weather-shield layer off for the moment (horrible butyl muck - yuck !) |
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Post by Karl on Mar 19, 2015 23:09:25 GMT 1
Is this yours focus man ?
I wouldn't mess around , I think you can buy new regulators fairly cheaply now
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Post by focusman on Mar 21, 2015 13:47:32 GMT 1
Is this yours focus man ? I wouldn't mess around , I think you can buy new regulators fairly cheaply now Hi Karl, Yea, it's mine OK !! Now what you're NOT taking into account is the fact that I'm Irish, and the Irish frequently have Scottish tendencies when it comes to spending money !!! But seriously, for the time that'll take to slip the whole thing back into the door, it's gotta be worth a try - if it fails, then I'll bite the bullet !! (but I'm cautiosly optimistic ..... !) Thanks again ! |
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Post by valhalla on Mar 23, 2015 16:26:29 GMT 1
Is this yours focus man ? I wouldn't mess around , I think you can buy new regulators fairly cheaply now Hi Karl, Yea, it's mine OK !! Now what you're NOT taking into account is the fact that I'm Irish, and the Irish frequently have Scottish tendencies when it comes to spending money !!! But seriously, for the time that'll take to slip the whole thing back into the door, it's gotta be worth a try - if it fails, then I'll bite the bullet !! (but I'm cautiosly optimistic ..... !) Thanks again ! Steady on now..... |
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Post by focusman on Dec 7, 2015 11:10:22 GMT 1
Hi, Problem hasn't recurred since March, so I'm leaving well alone !!  |
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Post by Karl on Dec 7, 2015 20:22:53 GMT 1
A rise sir spam alot proprietor of service plus car care centre
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Post by Noberator on Dec 7, 2015 20:35:56 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 20:41:30 GMT 1
Were's he gone i need some spam for tea !  |
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thats never worked for me ,its always been the cables / drive
