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Post by mfk on Jul 29, 2014 8:27:40 GMT 1
Above car failed NCT test with report "Wishbone bushes Loose Offside Front Foremost". When they say Foremost do they mean the one to the front of the car.
Also can you buy these bushes or do you have to change the entire wishbone. Any idea what the bushes are like to do? Any special tools required?
Appreciate any help.
Thanks
MFK
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Post by natedog on Jul 29, 2014 22:37:02 GMT 1
Assuming it's like other vag stuff, you can buy a complete arm with new bushes and balljoint as a complete unit for cheap. Really not worth the hassle of farting about changing bushes individually. The ones for my Toledo (probably the same part) were 22 quid a side for febi bilstein ones.
If you are going to just do the bush, i would guess they mean the one at the front of the car end of the wishbone
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Post by mfk on Jul 30, 2014 12:54:50 GMT 1
Thanks for the reply
I did the job last night. Much easier to take the complete wishbone off and get it in the vice. I then pressed out the front bush in the vice using a combination of deep sockets and bits I have in the workshop. Pressed in the new bushes using same technique having lubed up the bush and cleaned the wishbone well. Bushes only cost €12 for two in local factors. Old ones were absolutely perfect - sometimes these NCT reports are a joke!!
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Post by wheelnut on Jul 30, 2014 15:22:54 GMT 1
... Old ones were absolutely perfect - sometimes these NCT reports are a joke!! I agree, but they will never concede that they were wrong. Keep your fingers crossed until you get through the test with the new bushes. For the benefit of those who do not know what this is about: The NCT (National Car Test) is the Irish version of the MOT. It is carried out by an independent franchise who have a chain of workshops for the purpose. They do not do any repair work. If your car only needs something as minor as a bulb they will not fit it, you have to take the car away and get it done yourself. They have a contract with the government to test cars and nothing else. Independent garages do not test cars for the NCT in Ireland. For testing ball joints, bushes etc. they do not get someone to pull the wheel while the tester examines the components. They drive the car onto a plate which moves the suspension in various directions, and the computer decides if it passes or fails. I have seen suspensions that looked perfect when tested the old way but failed on the plate. |
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Post by Karl on Jul 30, 2014 20:34:48 GMT 1
... Old ones were absolutely perfect - sometimes these NCT reports are a joke!! I agree, but they will never concede that they were wrong. Keep your fingers crossed until you get through the test with the new bushes. For the benefit of those who do not know what this is about: The NCT (National Car Test) is the Irish version of the MOT. It is carried out by an independent franchise who have a chain of workshops for the purpose. They do not do any repair work. If your car only needs something as minor as a bulb they will not fit it, you have to take the car away and get it done yourself. They have a contract with the government to test cars and nothing else. Independent garages do not test cars for the NCT in Ireland. For testing ball joints, bushes etc. they do not get someone to pull the wheel while the tester examines the components. They drive the car onto a plate which moves the suspension in various directions, and the computer decides if it passes or fails. I have seen suspensions that looked perfect when tested the old way but failed on the plate. Same as are ATL test stations then I think the computer bit you describe is only for shock absorber rebound test. The uk m o t doesn't involve a suspension bounce test On the matter of the bush to fail an uk m o t the bush needs to be seriously unbonded from its component ie no long attached to fail Or have excessive play is present |
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Post by minimatt on Jul 30, 2014 20:57:47 GMT 1
I put polybushs in mine (vw Bora),shouldnt have to worry about them again,one bush was split in two and the other wasnt far behind,drives better but still making weird noises.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 21:20:27 GMT 1
They only failed one side so should be able to check there failure tolerance they work to, also how many bushes are on the front of the arm ? are these compliance bushes ? are they like consol bushes ?
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Post by mfk on Jul 30, 2014 23:02:21 GMT 1
They failed the front bush of the wishbone on both sides of the car. Not sure what type of bush it is except to say it has a cylindrical rubber centre body with a metal centre for the bolt within that and two mushroom like ends that sit on the outside flange of the wishbone if that makes sense. It is all one complete bush.
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