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Post by grimep on Jun 29, 2020 14:56:23 GMT 1
Lost comms with IPC control module.
Seems dodgy instrument panels are common on Fords of this era with repair services offered for a fixed price on eBay, but anyone got any pointers to figuring its definitely the instrument panel? Like where to check wiring, plugs, resistance etc?
thanks for any ideas
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Post by Joepublic on Jun 29, 2020 16:25:52 GMT 1
Searched the above and there’s a few videos on YouTube
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Post by grimep on Jun 29, 2020 17:43:21 GMT 1
yeah true, mostly focussing on the canbus connector on the circuit board, the solder goes to crap
I'll whip it out at some point and have a look
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Post by valhalla on Jun 29, 2020 23:55:35 GMT 1
Basically, anything on the circuit-board behind the instruments that has a header-joint for a connector - check that the solder has not cracked. If in doubt, re-flow the solder at every joint with fresh solder and decent flux. The joints all get stressed from excessive loads on all the cabling behind the dash, and Ford in their wisdom made sure that a fault here would leave you stranded in the middle of a journey.
These can just let you down at the side of the road, so it's always worth doing the job thoroughly just once. Easier than calling the breakdown services out.
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Post by grimep on Jun 30, 2020 11:46:41 GMT 1
Yeah, that is what I've read elsewhere. Scuse the newbie question but if I take the panel off, should I leave the battery disconnected??
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Post by trickydicky on Jun 30, 2020 12:33:50 GMT 1
Yeah, that is what I've read elsewhere. Scuse the newbie question but if I take the panel off, should I leave the battery disconnected?? Just make sure ignition is off when disconnecting or reconnecting panel Really your going to need power to test the supplies and grounds to the IPC I have a wiring diagram if you need help with testing |
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Post by grimep on Jun 30, 2020 17:31:27 GMT 1
Yeah, that is what I've read elsewhere. Scuse the newbie question but if I take the panel off, should I leave the battery disconnected?? Just make sure ignition is off when disconnecting or reconnecting panel Really your going to need power to test the supplies and grounds to the IPC I have a wiring diagram if you need help with testing Hey thanks for the offer. Problem is the fault is intermittent, the car will start fine now, so if I did any probing with the multimeter I doubt I'll find anything. I don't want to risk using it again and getting stranded. This is probably a bit ar*e about face but as there's a fairly good likelihood its cracked solder on the instrument panel I'll send it off to get tested and if necessary repaired. Worst case the panel is OK, and it will only have cost me about £60. |
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Post by remmington on Jun 30, 2020 18:27:52 GMT 1
Lost comms with IPC control module. Seems dodgy instrument panels are common on Fords of this era with repair services offered for a fixed price on eBay, but anyone got any pointers to figuring its definitely the instrument panel? Like where to check wiring, plugs, resistance etc? thanks for any ideas We used to do them in house at my workshop www.remmington.infoBut to be honest - the amount of rewetting solder and time invovled - we stopped doing them as we could not compete price wise with "eBay sellers" at our modest labour rate. The cars are so low value now - they are not worth 4-6 hours at the bench. Ford did do subsidised - reworked/exchange units cheap thru the dealers for retail customers. I have even seem them sell - brand new low cost units at silly low money. Oh... It the first time in all these years I have punted my workshop website on this forum - is this spamming? Fetch me a mod please! Have I been naughty? grimep Pm me and I will try and talk you thru it! |
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Post by grimep on Jun 30, 2020 19:48:48 GMT 1
Lost comms with IPC control module. Seems dodgy instrument panels are common on Fords of this era with repair services offered for a fixed price on eBay, but anyone got any pointers to figuring its definitely the instrument panel? Like where to check wiring, plugs, resistance etc? thanks for any ideas We used to do them in house at my workshop www.remmington.infoBut to be honest - the amount of rewetting solder and time invovled - we stopped doing them as we could not compete price wise with "eBay sellers" at our modest labour rate. The cars are so low value now - they are not worth 4-6 hours at the bench. Ford did do subsidised - reworked/exchange units cheap thru the dealers for retail customers. I have even seem them sell - brand new low cost units at silly low money. Oh... It the first time in all these years I have punted my workshop website on this forum - is this spamming? Fetch me a mod please! Have I been naughty? grimep Pm me and I will try and talk you thru it! Hey Remmington, kind of you to offer help, but I'm a total klutz with the soldering iron, repairing the kids' battery toys maybe, but even then its a mass of melted plastic and huge blobs of solder which break again after a week. I'm happy just getting it off the car and the cowling unclipped without breaking anything, so far. The eBay shops turn them around for about £100, but I'm sticking it in the post to Ecu Testing in Derbyshire, bit more expensive but they look pro. |
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Post by valhalla on Jun 30, 2020 23:58:53 GMT 1
The eBay shops turn them around for about £100, but I'm sticking it in the post to Ecu Testing in Derbyshire, bit more expensive but they look pro.
They are very pro - and come recommended. The main thing is, they test everything before it goes back out on their own in-house rigs they have built, so there's a better-than-fair chance that they will find any further, intermittent faults before you do.
They're not infallable, but negative experiences in that respect tend also to come from some customers of mine that also seem to attract negative experiences, if you catch my drift......  The sort of people who tend to be "economical with the truth" when it comes to getting the full story about why their "repaired" ECU subsequently "failed". |
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Post by trickydicky on Jul 1, 2020 1:33:26 GMT 1
Lost comms with IPC control module. Seems dodgy instrument panels are common on Fords of this era with repair services offered for a fixed price on eBay, but anyone got any pointers to figuring its definitely the instrument panel? Like where to check wiring, plugs, resistance etc? thanks for any ideas We used to do them in house at my workshop www.remmington.infoBut to be honest - the amount of rewetting solder and time invovled - we stopped doing them as we could not compete price wise with "eBay sellers" at our modest labour rate. The cars are so low value now - they are not worth 4-6 hours at the bench. Ford did do subsidised - reworked/exchange units cheap thru the dealers for retail customers. I have even seem them sell - brand new low cost units at silly low money. Oh... It the first time in all these years I have punted my workshop website on this forum - is this spamming? Fetch me a mod please! Have I been naughty? grimep Pm me and I will try and talk you thru it! Its always a good resource to revisit your website, do you still update the blogs? |
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Post by remmington on Jul 1, 2020 7:35:07 GMT 1
We used to do them in house at my workshop www.remmington.infoBut to be honest - the amount of rewetting solder and time invovled - we stopped doing them as we could not compete price wise with "eBay sellers" at our modest labour rate. The cars are so low value now - they are not worth 4-6 hours at the bench. Ford did do subsidised - reworked/exchange units cheap thru the dealers for retail customers. I have even seem them sell - brand new low cost units at silly low money. Oh... It the first time in all these years I have punted my workshop website on this forum - is this spamming? Fetch me a mod please! Have I been naughty? grimep Pm me and I will try and talk you thru it! Its always a good resource to revisit your website, do you still update the blogs? No... I have been lazy and not updated it for years. Also it is looking old - the format used was Microsoft Expression 4 and freehosting. I was quite pleased with myself all them years ago - writing the pages and uploading them to the web - also it cost me nothing doing it myself. Looking back - this is what I should have done thru all the wasted hours and days of the lockdown. Give it a revamp and update. |
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Post by trickydicky on Jul 1, 2020 12:09:42 GMT 1
Its always a good resource to revisit your website, do you still update the blogs? No... I have been lazy and not updated it for years. Also it is looking old - the format used was Microsoft Expression 4 and freehosting. I was quite pleased with myself all them years ago - writing the pages and uploading them to the web - also it cost me nothing doing it myself. Looking back - this is what I should have done thru all the wasted hours and days of the lockdown. Give it a revamp and update. Something for the second wave of Covid-19 perhaps Incredible how much you have laid out on scan tools alone Do you like the g-scan?? |
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Post by remmington on Jul 1, 2020 18:45:31 GMT 1
No... I have been lazy and not updated it for years. Also it is looking old - the format used was Microsoft Expression 4 and freehosting. I was quite pleased with myself all them years ago - writing the pages and uploading them to the web - also it cost me nothing doing it myself. Looking back - this is what I should have done thru all the wasted hours and days of the lockdown. Give it a revamp and update. Something for the second wave of Covid-19 perhaps Incredible how much you have laid out on scan tools aloneDo you like the g-scan?? Yeah silly money for Scan tools - and they are redundant so quickly (worthless). Next level is dealer stuff - we don't see enuf of one make - this is my stumbling block. Yeah I like Gscan and it is cheap.... |
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Post by trickydicky on Jul 1, 2020 23:59:51 GMT 1
Something for the second wave of Covid-19 perhaps Incredible how much you have laid out on scan tools aloneDo you like the g-scan?? Yeah silly money for Scan tools - and they are redundant so quickly (worthless). Next level is dealer stuff - we don't see enuf of one make - this is my stumbling block. Yeah I like Gscan and it is cheap.... I do a bit of online training with "Our Virtual Academy" now and then It's interactive videos with questions and technical theory behind different topics and systems Quite a good system really (It's owned and run by an ex F1 engineer called Ben) They use a G-Scan 2 for any bits where they need to use a scan tool, it looks a neat little tool |
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The sort of people who tend to be "economical with the truth" when it comes to getting the full story about why their "repaired" ECU subsequently "failed".