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Post by remmington on Jun 27, 2020 7:23:32 GMT 1
I don't wear latex or nitrile gloves very often at work. May use latex ones when doing CV gaiters. I never use barrier cream - never have (but to be honest it may not be a bad idea). We do use leather gloves for some jobs - also welding gauntlets. Even before CV19 - we were washing our hands all the while - when I fitted out our workshop - I had small catering type stainless wash basins (knee operated cold water supply only) fitted all over the place. We are just in the habit of washing hands before moving customers cars - to prevent soiling them inside. I prefer to wash my hands in cold water. We only have hot water for washing hands in the tea hut/toilet. What I do use a lot of is - hand cream after washing my hands - my current favorite is - O'Keeffe's Working Hands Hand Cream (best bought in 193g tubs at £11.50 ish). Can't recomend this enuf - it does smell a bit of ammonia - but it is not greasy at all. I supply all PPE at our workshop - but we don't really use a lot. We don't wear workwear - we are sort of a jeans and tea shirt type of place. I might put on a cotton boiler suit if I gonna get really dirty - but that is not often. We even have washer/drying machine for laundry as well. We have a cupboard with a stock of Tyvek murder suits, boxes of gloves and safety glasses in it - but we don't often use many of them. I am a bit slack on PPE - I don't even wear steal toe caps - the only thing I have moan about is wearing safety glasses when using power/air tools. Obviously we have to wear a full black RAC uniform with a hi-viz vest and safety boots at all times when on duty which is absolute murder this week!!! When I worked in a workshop we could get away with Snickers shorts and a T shirt in the summer but always the bootsSnickers also used to make awesome work jeans, not cheap but they are tough and comfy and last for years I buy my own Uvex composite toe boots and its worth it as they are very light and comfy on a 12hr shift I have had a couple of pairs of beige dickies workwear shorts on this week - tea shirts - I always wear boots for work (Blundstone 550 dealer boots). I sort of always wear "snap on" T shirts bought off eBay - so I look like a mechanic anyway. PPE - I draw the line at trainers in the workshop. I don't have a problem with shorts in the summer. Thou shorts are not ideal - as it takes ages to get your knees clean in the bath when you get home. As I said - the only thing I get a "bee in my bonnet" with is safety glasses. Outside doing recovery - dressed in black - no shade. Umm... Not nice! You have my sympathy mate.... Keep drinking water and have the sudacrem ready for the bits that chaf - it is so easy to get sore when soaked in sweat all day. (Magic nappy rash cream - works a treat!)
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Post by givusaclue on Jun 27, 2020 9:51:50 GMT 1
but they do have to supply barrier cream, gloves are almost unobtainable at the mo, but barrier cream isn't a lot easier to get in 5l. containers either Yes they do. Every employer shall ensure that suitable personal protective equipment is provided to his employees who may be exposed to a risk to their health or safety while at work except where and to the extent that such risk has been adequately controlled by other means which are equally or more effective. Also the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 no charge can be made to the worker for the provision of PPE which is used only at work. PPE at work guide.Thanks for that Noberator. They’ve changed it slightly since I last looked, but it makes no difference to me really, I buy gloves by the thousand normally as I think they’re a good thing, but the problem is at the mo it’s still a real struggle to get them, I bought a carton of xl ones on Thursday as we’re getting down, really wanted L but none available £89.90/carton +vat, normally £42.50 + will just have to up the consumables charge a little bit if it carries on I guess, extra seat covers, antibacterial wipes, extra things to do etc. It all adds up
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Post by remmington on Jun 27, 2020 14:15:37 GMT 1
Yes they do. Every employer shall ensure that suitable personal protective equipment is provided to his employees who may be exposed to a risk to their health or safety while at work except where and to the extent that such risk has been adequately controlled by other means which are equally or more effective. Also the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 no charge can be made to the worker for the provision of PPE which is used only at work. PPE at work guide.Thanks for that Noberator. They’ve changed it slightly since I last looked, but it makes no difference to me really, I buy gloves by the thousand normally as I think they’re a good thing, but the problem is at the mo it’s still a real struggle to get them, I bought a carton of xl ones on Thursday as we’re getting down, really wanted L but none available £89.90/carton +vat, normally £42.50 + will just have to up the consumables charge a little bit if it carries on I guess, extra seat covers, antibacterial wipes, extra things to do etc. It all adds upMy missus got a email from her private denist saying they will add £35 per sitting to her bill for PPE. (NHS dentists will not make this charge - they can't as a set of charges is laid out for them - so they are refusing treatment - as they are shut and won't do anything but a phone triage - whatever that is?) What is a fair charge for consumables per job?
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Post by studabear on Jun 27, 2020 16:55:28 GMT 1
I had root canal work on Tuesday. Before I was allowed in the building my temp was taken, I had to hand sanitize, put gloves on then a face mask.
All dentists and nurses had gloves and masks. Now as I was having my tooth ground or drilled into work whatever it is they do the dentist and nurse had to wear what looked like respirators, plastic face shields and they also had to put overalls type suits on.
I'm just very thankful to have been treated.
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Post by Noberator on Jun 27, 2020 19:24:24 GMT 1
I don't wear latex or nitrile gloves very often at work. May use latex ones when doing CV gaiters. I never use barrier cream - never have (but to be honest it may not be a bad idea). We do use leather gloves for some jobs - also welding gauntlets. Even before CV19 - we were washing our hands all the while - when I fitted out our workshop - I had small catering type stainless wash basins (knee operated cold water supply only) fitted all over the place. We are just in the habit of washing hands before moving customers cars - to prevent soiling them inside. I prefer to wash my hands in cold water. We only have hot water for washing hands in the tea hut/toilet. What I do use a lot of is - hand cream after washing my hands - my current favorite is - O'Keeffe's Working Hands Hand Cream (best bought in 193g tubs at £11.50 ish). Can't recomend this enuf - it does smell a bit of ammonia - but it is not greasy at all. I supply all PPE at our workshop - but we don't really use a lot. We don't wear workwear - we are sort of a jeans and tea shirt type of place. I might put on a cotton boiler suit if I gonna get really dirty - but that is not often. We even have washer/drying machine for laundry as well. We have a cupboard with a stock of Tyvek murder suits, boxes of gloves and safety glasses in it - but we don't often use many of them. I am a bit slack on PPE - - the only thing I have moan about is wearing safety glasses when using power/air tools. Does your work place have any of the following Hazards? 1)Impact by heavy objects, resulting in crush injuries. 2)Sharp objects – risk of puncturing the sole. 3)Absorption of elements – such as water or oil. 4)Build-up of static electricity. 5)Extreme temperatures. If you answer yes to any of them you need steel toe caps but not necessarily boots there are steel toe shoes available. The Industry I used to work in for thirty odd years you had to wear steel toe boots or shoes which had to conform to a certain standard ie various nasty chemicals,exteme heat etc. Even in a laboratory dropping a beaker of acid will soon destroy an ordinary pair of shoes. I once on a Health and safety course watched the Instructor (with the appropriate PPE) pour Hydrochloric Acid on a sheeps eye. That was to demonstrate the importance of wearing safety googles when handling dangerous chemicals. He got his point over after we saw the sheeps eye fizzing. Yes you would be blind.
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Post by studabear on Jun 27, 2020 19:49:19 GMT 1
We will be getting composite boots for when working on hybrid and electric vehicles.
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Post by remmington on Jun 27, 2020 20:12:23 GMT 1
We will be getting composite boots for when working on hybrid and electric vehicles. I already have rubber mats on the floor and a signed up fibre glass scythe on the wall. Toolbox with 1000V VDE tools in it...
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Post by trickydicky on Jun 27, 2020 20:25:07 GMT 1
I'm already a convert to composite toe and footbed boots, they are better in both hot and cold weather,and noticably lighter (not by much, but it makes a difference over a long shift)
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Post by studabear on Jun 27, 2020 20:45:59 GMT 1
We will be getting composite boots for when working on hybrid and electric vehicles. I already have rubber mats on the floor and a signed up fibre glass scythe on the wall. Toolbox with 1000V VDE tools in it... Is the Scythe for unhooking someone getting frazzled?
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Post by remmington on Jun 27, 2020 21:49:04 GMT 1
I already have rubber mats on the floor and a signed up fibre glass scythe on the wall. Toolbox with 1000V VDE tools in it... Is the Scythe for unhooking someone getting frazzled? Yes mate..
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Post by givusaclue on Jun 28, 2020 0:13:45 GMT 1
Is the Scythe for unhooking someone getting frazzled? Yes mate.. Ooh, post a piccie, not seen one of those
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Post by remmington on Jun 28, 2020 7:17:36 GMT 1
Ooh, post a piccie, not seen one of those The are not called a "scythe" - they are called a "rescue pole" - Sealey sell them. But you can from the gerneric photo above - see why we call it a "scythe". This will make you laugh - when all this electric car tech started to roll out. When Guardian was on this forum and was on about it daily. I thought I would gear myself up for it - as we mostly do auto electrical work. So I painted up a bit of our workshop wall - bought some safety kit/signs - mounted what 1000v insulated tools I already had (screwdrivers/pliers) - and went out and bought an insulated socket/spanner set (they are expensive). Made a little wall display to speak of. Sort of a marketing excersise. Lots of my customers comment on it "do you fix electric cars?". The fact is we don't often (nearly never) - as none of my customers or anybody I know have an electric/hybrid car. But that is another issue. But it may pay in the long game... But at the rate they are rolling out - I would think I will be retired first. On the subject of the "scythe" - I actually think they are a good idea - I have seen them before in big switch rooms and on ships. Not sure what make mine is - but I think it was about £170 ish. It was worth that for a talking point... Plus it is one thing I have bought - that I hope I will never have to use! But it does raise the question again "about lone working" in the motortrade?
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Post by givusaclue on Jun 28, 2020 9:18:24 GMT 1
I have quite a lot of that gear, not the signage, but prosol or euros will do it I’m sure, I bought a load of Stuff when a local main dealer shut a couple of years ago, I think the “scythe “ is an excellent idea, I will have to look into it. ]Thanks
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Post by remmington on Jun 28, 2020 9:48:55 GMT 1
I have quite a lot of that gear, not the signage, but prosol or euros will do it I’m sure, I bought a load of Stuff when a local main dealer shut a couple of years ago, I think the “scythe “ is an excellent idea, I will have to look into it. ]Thanks Signage - if you had a bit more artistic flare than me - you could get a signwriter to do you a "full size grim reaper man" use the rescue tool as the scythe. Be a focal/talking point on your workshop wall. If it had enuf electrical shock warnings on the sign - it would pass the message on.
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Post by voicey on Jun 28, 2020 11:04:23 GMT 1
I was really lucky to have bought 2,000 good quality nitrile gloves right before the NHS PPE crisis took off. In the past I have asked my guys (4 of us in the workshop) to keep their hands clean by using gloves wherever possible so they can get into a car without spoiling the leather (and most of our customers have cream interiors!). Now I have changed my tune a little - gloves for only the messy/oily jobs. Regular hand washing for everything else. I'm also asking them to re-use the gloves wherever possible - "wash" the outside with brake cleaner and blue roll, then take off and put aside for later use. We're really making our supply stretch out.
On PPE, safety shoes are mandated. I do pay for them - except our two recent lads came with their own, but I'll buy replacements when needed. Goggles, ear defenders, dust masks (only a couple left), hot gloves, etc are all available for use. I also have a range of kneeling mats that I encourage the use of.
Workwear, I supply branded polo tops and a fleece and also expect the guys to wear black trousers (but I'll pay for them if they give me a receipt).
I truly believe in looking after my staff - after all they're the ones making me money. I provide a fully stocked kitchen (so they don't have to go out to buy lunch). I also keep their daily drivers maintained as I need them to be able to get to work. As a result, we have a happy team who love what they do and are very productive.
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