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Post by matt2223 on May 13, 2018 18:45:35 GMT 1
It does seem like I have interpreted the manual correctly then and my tester needs to re think when he is assessing brake discs. I don’t want a bad reputation as the garage that will fail your discs if the car sits around a bit.
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Post by Karl on May 13, 2018 19:46:33 GMT 1
Just above scrap condition
Is the MOT
Bare minimum standards nothing more
At the time of test
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Post by valhalla on May 16, 2018 23:08:32 GMT 1
Loads of failures here on Skye for discs that are not effective across the width of the brake pad, i.e. the disc surface has rusted across enough of the face to constitute a serious loss of braking surface area. It's a moot point as to how much surface area has to be lost to constitute a fail..... I work on 50% as a limit on the front discs (main braking forces) for my services, but I will advise customers well before then. Only structural failures I have seen are not on MoT's, they have come in as severe judders or imbalances, where the ventilation area of the disc/s has/have parted company. In the mot test for the UK the surface area does not matter, the whole rubbing area that the pads rub against can be completely rusty, in other words no visual surface area left. From the mot standards that brake disc or discs on "Condition" has past the mot test, however the RBT is another thing all together! Well, they are definitely still failing them on this area of uncertainty. I'll see if I can dig out some specific examples; I think I might have a recent case on VW Passat that belongs to a neighbour.
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Post by Karl on May 17, 2018 7:03:38 GMT 1
I thought MOT might have been exempt on some islands
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Post by rhyds on May 17, 2018 7:37:36 GMT 1
I thought MOT might have been exempt on some islands From what I understand car MOTs are only officially waived on islands without a regular car ferry service (Where getting the car to a test centre would be a monumental task) and Skye has a bridge and ferry service. However considering the lack of regular police patrols...
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Post by valhalla on May 17, 2018 14:09:23 GMT 1
I thought MOT might have been exempt on some islands As Rhyds says! Some of the little islands are exempt, but even then there are still C&U regs to be followed. What has generally happened in the past is that the police will visit an island for as long as the ferry can be caught back on the same day. Sadly, and I say this with a very heavy heart ( ) the ferry services are just not very reliable around those sorts of appointments.
In practice, everything sorts itself out just fine without officialdom having to intervene too much.
With Skye, this is what killed my truck, as HGV inspections are much more problematic, so if you get stuck between regulations, you cannot just "pop into the next town" to sort it all out.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 18:12:39 GMT 1
I thought MOT might have been exempt on some islands As Rhyds says! Some of the little islands are exempt, but even then there are still C&U regs to be followed. What has generally happened in the past is that the police will visit an island for as long as the ferry can be caught back on the same day. Sadly, and I say this with a very heavy heart ( ) the ferry services are just not very reliable around those sorts of appointments.
In practice, everything sorts itself out just fine without officialdom having to intervene too much.
With Skye, this is what killed my truck, as HGV inspections are much more problematic, so if you get stuck between regulations, you cannot just "pop into the next town" to sort it all out.
Or the next Island
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Post by Rhubarb on May 17, 2018 21:57:17 GMT 1
I thought MOT might have been exempt on some islands As Rhyds says! Some of the little islands are exempt, but even then there are still C&U regs to be followed. What has generally happened in the past is that the police will visit an island for as long as the ferry can be caught back on the same day. Sadly, and I say this with a very heavy heart ( ) the ferry services are just not very reliable around those sorts of appointments. In practice, everything sorts itself out just fine without officialdom having to intervene too much. With Skye, this is what killed my truck, as HGV inspections are much more problematic, so if you get stuck between regulations, you cannot just "pop into the next town" to sort it all out.
Couldn't you just have run your truck MOT exempt? IE: Recovery only?
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Post by valhalla on May 17, 2018 22:44:06 GMT 1
Couldn't you just have run your truck MOT exempt? IE: Recovery only? That was the trouble - three owners before me, the person who converted it from cargo lorry to beavertail, failed in a miserable way to change the taxation-class and the body-type to suit. So three subsequent owners had, mistakenly, been using the truck in a way that was not strictly appropriate! And no, they were not aware until I raised this as a problem.....
The job of going from one use to another would have involved a bit of a shuffle, not least getting a temporary MoT on a truck that was being operated as a Recovery lorry on a V112G up to that point. With an inspection that would have needed a 135mile journey eachh way as a full-fat HGV, the costs were prohibitive. It costs £400 just to lift one of these trucks, then there's the mileage costs.....
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