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Post by shaungriff on Jun 16, 2017 20:34:56 GMT 1
Just wondered how you guys dispose of your waste oil ? I'm a sole trader mechanic, mainly mobile & im finding it increasingly difficult to dispose of waste oil. My local tip/ recycling centre don't take trade oil & give me grief when I try sneaking it in the public waste oil tank ! I've tried contacting a couple of companies that recycle waste oil but they say I don't produce enough oil to make it worth there while. Thanks Shaun
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 21:01:18 GMT 1
I'm in the same position from time to time, I just leave it with the customer to dispose off.
At the end of the day why should I be left with the grief?
It's a simple oil change and sometimes customers supply there own oil and parts so labour is hardly worth the hassle.
I use to fill up a couple of water butts at the back of the house in my shed so that a company would dispose of it but it was too much of a pain.
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Post by shaungriff on Jun 16, 2017 21:25:47 GMT 1
Thanks for reply mate. I collect it into 20litre tubs then take it into the tip.... it's best when it's raining as the guys at the tip don't like coming out of there hut to be nosy ! I find it hard to believe I'm allowed to take one 20litre tub in there a week yet they won't let me pay & take it in as trade waste as they "don't accept trade waste oil "
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Post by Karl on Jun 16, 2017 22:24:44 GMT 1
Could you not come to an arrangement with a local garage ?
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Post by Karl on Jun 16, 2017 22:27:20 GMT 1
If you're mobile , tread carefully as you could well need an waste carriers license if transporting old parts etc
£££ from your local council I think
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Post by oli on Jun 17, 2017 7:53:08 GMT 1
If you're mobile , tread carefully as you could well need an waste carriers license if transporting old parts etc £££ from your local council I think Yes, I thought that. If my understanding of that law is correct it seems overly rigid. I just can't see how it's possible now to break it. Old parts - waste. Boxes from new parts - waste. Empty tubes of RTV - waste. An old Stanley knife blade - waste. Cling film from one's sandwiches - waste Etc Oli |
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Post by rpm on Jun 17, 2017 11:05:43 GMT 1
If you're mobile , tread carefully as you could well need an waste carriers license if transporting old parts etc £££ from your local council I think I always leave the old parts, or ask if they want me to put them in their bin. I say " so you can see what parts I have changed and charged you for" But the waste oil is awkward. Pour it into an empty oil container so it doesnt look like waste, and as suggested by MrB I drop it off at 1 of my local friendly independants. |
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Post by Rhubarb on Jun 17, 2017 20:20:07 GMT 1
I worked mobile for 10 years and had the same problem...I used two different recycling centres, and always went there dressed in casual clothes and used a different car..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 20:39:05 GMT 1
I worked mobile for 10 years and had the same problem...I used two different recycling centres, and always went there dressed in casual clothes and used a different car.. I use to do that until I got caught |
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Post by french crap fanatic on Jun 18, 2017 23:01:33 GMT 1
I worked mobile for 10 years and had the same problem...I used two different recycling centres, and always went there dressed in casual clothes and used a different car.. I use to do that until I got caught which garage do you use for mot? ask them if they would take it. or find out which garage uses a waste oil heater and store it untill the first cold snap of the year,theyll be glad to take it off you. just make sure that its not contaminated with water or antifreez. |
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Post by remmington on Jun 20, 2017 22:03:57 GMT 1
Waste oil now costs us 4p a litre to get taken away.
Minimum collection is 1000ltrs. We have two 1100ltr tanks.
In times gone past I have sold it for 9p a litre (£90 per ton).
Gear oil and brake fluid goes in the waste oil.
We never seem to get any waste antifreeze?
Filters we have an air crusher and they go into open top drums (crushing them really does reduce the cost, first three drums of filters paid for the crusher).
I used to take oil from one mobile mechanic, but he has given up now (there are no mobile mechanics left in our area now).
I do refuse customers dumping oil on me (another thing that annoys me, like taking your own beer to a pub).
Strangely I do get asked for cans of waste oil by retired old men who paint sheds and fences with it.
Waste fuel is the real problem. Diesel and petrol mix! It costs a fortune to get collected and is a pain to store.
Mate of mine who owns a garage fills 200ltr drums with it, then lists it on eBay for £10. He reckons he has had several people drive 40miles plus and buy it off him.
Scrap and batteries just seem to evaporate.
Local council is only interested in waste carriers notes for: waste oil and dry waste wheelie bin.
Dry waste wheelie bin is the biggest expense @ £18.60 every two weeks for a 1100ltr bin.
What is odd about waste oil collection is: If you buy 15 200ltr drums of oil (3000ltrs). You will only have two tankfulls removed (2200ltrs). I know most cars come in with less oil in them than they leave with, after a service. Plus filters have a volume content as well. But this shortfall is pretty normal across the trade.
I went to the local tip (dump recycle centre) a few weeks ago. I had not been for years, as we have skips in my yard most months. I was shocked that they charge the general public for lots of things (£4 per tyre was one of them). I nearly got the ar*e with the chap "standing guard" next to the skip. He really did give me the "third degree" on "where the rubbish came from".
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Post by valhalla on Jun 20, 2017 23:34:11 GMT 1
I wonder if all the hassle that councils give over "waste disposal" will shrink a bit after Brexit? The only reason I say this is, the nominal cost to the council comes from their own charges they incur for landfill tax, etc. etc. which I think is as a consequence of EU recycling targets, etc. etc. Or will this just be another cash-cow for the over-bloated central government controls on everything that life dishes-out?
I take waste oil from all the locals, but they have to promise faithfully that it comes from sealed containers, as I don't want to have to separate water from the oil (with attendant costs there). Since I got the new waste oil heater this last Winter, I am amazed by how much oil it will consume in a day, so much that I could store all my services up for the majority of the year (which is, in fact, what I do now) just to have enough to burn over the Winter and keep the workshop warm.
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Post by voicey on Jun 25, 2017 20:56:58 GMT 1
This is a very interesting thread for me. I'm currently charging my customers 25p per litre of waste fluid taken from their car and storing it in 1,000 litre IBC containers (separate oil and antifreeze).
What sort of oil burners are people using? If I can get the go ahead from my insurance company it'd be good to burn it to heat the workshop rather than pay someone to take it away.
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Post by givusaclue on Jun 26, 2017 18:21:01 GMT 1
I wonder if all the hassle that councils give over "waste disposal" will shrink a bit after Brexit? The only reason I say this is, the nominal cost to the council comes from their own charges they incur for landfill tax, etc. etc. which I think is as a consequence of EU recycling targets, etc. etc. Or will this just be another cash-cow for the over-bloated central government controls on everything that life dishes-out? I take waste oil from all the locals, but they have to promise faithfully that it comes from sealed containers, as I don't want to have to separate water from the oil (with attendant costs there). Since I got the new waste oil heater this last Winter, I am amazed by how much oil it will consume in a day, so much that I could store all my services up for the majority of the year (which is, in fact, what I do now) just to have enough to burn over the Winter and keep the workshop warm. i would delete the previous 2 posts personally www.oilrecyclingassociation.org.uk/index.php/2016/03/18/small-waste-oil-burners-swobs/ |
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Post by remmington on Jun 26, 2017 19:09:30 GMT 1
This is a very interesting thread for me. I'm currently charging my customers 25p per litre of waste fluid taken from their car and storing it in 1,000 litre IBC containers (separate oil and antifreeze). What sort of oil burners are people using? If I can get the go ahead from my insurance company it'd be good to burn it to heat the workshop rather than pay someone to take it away. Waste oil heaters are history now, insurers and Defra make it unrealistic to fund the use of them, even if the oil is free. Waste oil burners seem a good idea, but they are messy and noisey. Local councils are on the hunt for unlicensed installations as well (not that I am aware for anybody local getting fined). Truthfully... If you dress properly for winter working, there are not many days till late afternoon it is that cold. |
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