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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 21:58:44 GMT 1
I had a good one today or so I thought  Vauxhall Vectra nearside rear wheel was a steel pressed design with a speed limit sticker on it, i.e. 80Kmh / 50mph. The tyre was a 205/65/15. The offside rear was a alloy wheel with a tyre fitted size 205/65/15. Both wheels were the same size one made of alloy and the other steel pressed. According to the reg's a lightweight or space saver wheel fitted to a road wheel is a fail. OK it is definitely not a space saver so given that it is a full blown normal size steel wheel with a speed sticker on it, how do you know if it is a lightweight wheel? How do you define a lightweight wheel? |
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Post by Karl on Aug 1, 2014 22:35:18 GMT 1
Pass and advise Harry
It has to be fairly obvious it's an space saver/temporary wheel , yours sounds like a full size/normal wheel with a warning sticker on it for health/safety purposes
A space saver by its own nature is light weight
Get it ? Mot wording is clear as mud some times LOL
Mot rules are crazy when you look at them, but they are bare minimum standards
On the refresher this was hammered home. Unless it's missing,obviously broken/damaged or fallen off its pass and advise
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 22:45:30 GMT 1
Its lighter than the others when you weigh it  . know what i mean Arry! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 11:20:16 GMT 1
Arrh  steel lightweight V alloy  |
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Post by oli on Aug 6, 2014 8:50:28 GMT 1
Fail him for the other three being lightweight then...  ?;-) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 18:19:13 GMT 1
When I get a free minute I will ask DVSA what they mean about the difference between the wheels because it is at the moment clear as mud to me |
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Post by Karl on Aug 6, 2014 18:47:00 GMT 1
Harry it read it as anything significantly smaller ie lighter than the standard wheels
I don't see the confusion tbh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 18:51:25 GMT 1
Karl when I have spoken with DVSA I will come back to you, I just want their take on it |
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Post by Karl on Aug 6, 2014 19:14:22 GMT 1
Ask them about the egr leaking too !
Pass and advise they'll say I reckon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 23:15:39 GMT 1
Comp II is on the way later in 2015, and over recent weeks I have been ringing DVSA's helpline and their automated response keeps saying they are exceptionally busy at the moment and it may be better to ring back later , I wonder if they know it is me ringing and they all pick long straws or is it that Siemens know their time is limited and they have or are very ready to pull out and leave DVSA to it sort of speak , either way it seems that nobody is on hand to help or advise when required  |
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Post by remmington on Aug 10, 2014 9:07:15 GMT 1
Steel wheel. Pass and advise!
Leaking EGR valve. Pass and advise!
(I do think personally that a badly leaking EGR valve should fail, under a leaking exhaust failure thou).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 17:24:35 GMT 1
Steel wheel. Pass and advise! Leaking EGR valve. Pass and advise! (I do think personally that a badly leaking EGR valve should fail, under a leaking exhaust failure thou). Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! Pass and advise! A steel wheel in its self is not a pass and advise , although I do accept that most cars now have alloy wheels fitted I never said the EGR valve was leaking, it was the main EGR pipe from the exhaust manifold to the EGR valve, which did have a large hole in it causing a major leak of gasses at the exhaust manifold area where the EGR pipe is bolted. I think in my opinion that DVSA would have treated the leak as a refusal to test the emissions , and now after the latest special notice I think they would expect the van to fail the test along with the ITEMS NOT TESTED being used for the emissions test not being carried out . |
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Post by Karl on Aug 20, 2014 19:58:08 GMT 1
Yes I think your right Harry it would be a reason to not test
As there is no fail for leaking egr system
Only exhaust ( and it's not actually leaking from the exhaust )
So a sensible approach would be to test as much as you can before aborting or like you say about the latest special notice items not tested
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Post by Noberator on Aug 20, 2014 23:15:54 GMT 1
Yes I think your right Harry it would be a reason to not test As there is no fail for leaking egr system Only exhaust ( and it's not actually leaking from the exhaust ) So a sensible approach would be to test as much as you can before aborting or like you say about the latest special notice items not tested If a vehicle presented for MOT emits substantial or large quantities of smoke this is a straight grounds for refusal to carry out a test.   |
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. know what i mean Arry! 
steel lightweight V alloy 
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