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Post by givusaclue on Aug 7, 2018 22:45:06 GMT 1
I've fallen into the same trap - gassed up both our minis (which seem to be holding pressure) but no improvement. I think at least one of them has a non-functioning compressor. Rather than expend my energy on them, I think I'm just going to pull my finger out and repair the tailgate so I can go soft top on the Land Rover! Oli I've had more than one mini with wiring chaffed & corroded around the n/s of the radiator for the compressor or pressure I think, but it was probably a couple of years since I had one
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Post by oli on Aug 8, 2018 7:18:16 GMT 1
I've fallen into the same trap - gassed up both our minis (which seem to be holding pressure) but no improvement. I think at least one of them has a non-functioning compressor. Rather than expend my energy on them, I think I'm just going to pull my finger out and repair the tailgate so I can go soft top on the Land Rover! Oli I've had more than one mini with wiring chaffed & corroded around the n/s of the radiator for the compressor or pressure I think, but it was probably a couple of years since I had one I'll have a little look. Thanks. One makes a clanking noise when the AC is engaged and the other nothing at all, so could well be wiring at fault. Oli
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Post by givusaclue on Aug 8, 2018 11:04:29 GMT 1
I've had more than one mini with wiring chaffed & corroded around the n/s of the radiator for the compressor or pressure I think, but it was probably a couple of years since I had one I'll have a little look. Thanks. One makes a clanking noise when the AC is engaged and the other nothing at all, so could well be wiring at fault. Oli if it's a metallic clank it's possibly the compressor drive being engaged if it's the electromagnetic freewheeling pulley type, you may have other problems though, have you had it scanned to see if there are any fault codes relevant check live data?
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Post by oli on Aug 9, 2018 9:29:58 GMT 1
I'll have a little look. Thanks. One makes a clanking noise when the AC is engaged and the other nothing at all, so could well be wiring at fault. Oli if it's a metallic clank it's possibly the compressor drive being engaged if it's the electromagnetic freewheeling pulley type, you may have other problems though, have you had it scanned to see if there are any fault codes relevant check live data? Sorry, I wasn't very clear - the clanking continues whilst the AC is on, rather than a single noise. I gather the electro-mechanical clutch on these tend to go - I suspect either that or the compressor itself. The other one does nothing so could well be a wiring issue. Regarding fault codes, I don't think the syst is that advanced - both are 2005 vehicles. Neither are flagging fault codes, but I'll pop them on my (rather basic scanner) to see what they show. Oli
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Post by Stilo on Aug 9, 2018 16:58:23 GMT 1
A neighbours 2008 Honda FRV has suffered aircon failure, and a specialist has diagnosed a defective compressor. He's been quoted €700 for parts and labour...
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Post by givusaclue on Aug 9, 2018 17:57:50 GMT 1
if it's a metallic clank it's possibly the compressor drive being engaged if it's the electromagnetic freewheeling pulley type, you may have other problems though, have you had it scanned to see if there are any fault codes relevant check live data? Sorry, I wasn't very clear - the clanking continues whilst the AC is on, rather than a single noise. I gather the electro-mechanical clutch on these tend to go - I suspect either that or the compressor itself. The other one does nothing so could well be a wiring issue. Regarding fault codes, I don't think the syst is that advanced - both are 2005 vehicles. Neither are flagging fault codes, but I'll pop them on my (rather basic scanner) to see what they show. Oli if the noise only appears when the ac is switched on the compressor is at fault, the noise would be there all the time with the engine running & the ac off if it was the electro clutch as far as the scanner goes you don't just want to be looking at codes, if you can read live data you may be able to read if it thinks it's got refrigerant pressure, 0 pressure or too high & it prohibits the system from working to protect itself. didn't the people that gassed them check running pressures etc? we do & measure & record temp difference
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Post by remmington on Aug 9, 2018 18:30:25 GMT 1
A neighbours 2008 Honda FRV has suffered aircon failure, and a specialist has diagnosed a defective compressor. He's been quoted €700 for parts and labour... I have done several pumps this week.... New pump with gas and new belt and proper seals averages out at about £500 ish I did 2011 VW Passat - pattern pump, £4 worth of seals, new Aux belt, 600grams of R134a gas and two hours labour to fit - cost to car owner - £510. You are not getting a genuine Delphi main dealer pump and the labour is only £50 an hour. This is as cheap as you are gonna get!Proper dealer pumps and dealer labour would push this to over £1k
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Post by oli on Aug 9, 2018 21:51:14 GMT 1
Sorry, I wasn't very clear - the clanking continues whilst the AC is on, rather than a single noise. I gather the electro-mechanical clutch on these tend to go - I suspect either that or the compressor itself. The other one does nothing so could well be a wiring issue. Regarding fault codes, I don't think the syst is that advanced - both are 2005 vehicles. Neither are flagging fault codes, but I'll pop them on my (rather basic scanner) to see what they show. Oli if the noise only appears when the ac is switched on the compressor is at fault, the noise would be there all the time with the engine running & the ac off if it was the electro clutch as far as the scanner goes you don't just want to be looking at codes, if you can read live data you may be able to read if it thinks it's got refrigerant pressure, 0 pressure or too high & it prohibits the system from working to protect itself. didn't the people that gassed them check running pressures etc? we do & measure & record temp difference The person who checked and gassed them was a right cowboy 🤠 (Me). We've had both vehicles a few years and neither had working AC when we got them. To be honest it's never really bothered me - we use them both as run around - until the recent hot weather. Both had a bit of gas in them so I just tried topping them up. The pressure seems to be holding well. I'll be honest, I may not bother investigating too much further...or I might see about a cheap secondhand compressor for one of them as it does grate with me not fixing something! Oli
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Post by oli on Aug 9, 2018 21:55:49 GMT 1
The general message seems to be air con is an expensive and rather delicate luxury.
Give me some nice Land Rover style bulkhead vents any day!
Oli
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Post by upkeep on Aug 10, 2018 7:40:51 GMT 1
How did you gas them have you the kit? and I also don't understand why people have such a negative view on A/C possibly one of the greatest comfort benefits to the motorist.
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Post by Joepublic on Aug 10, 2018 9:24:01 GMT 1
2010 Skoda Octavia 2.0 Tdi pump and pressure sensor was 185 delivered from Mr Auto
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 19:04:09 GMT 1
Plenty driving safety features to consider as well with AC. It's not just about the money
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Post by Stilo on Aug 13, 2018 17:10:05 GMT 1
A neighbours 2008 Honda FRV has suffered aircon failure, and a specialist has diagnosed a defective compressor. He's been quoted €700 for parts and labour... I have done several pumps this week.... New pump with gas and new belt and proper seals averages out at about £500 ish I did 2011 VW Passat - pattern pump, £4 worth of seals, new Aux belt, 600grams of R134a gas and two hours labour to fit - cost to car owner - £510. You are not getting a genuine Delphi main dealer pump and the labour is only £50 an hour. This is as cheap as you are gonna get!Proper dealer pumps and dealer labour would push this to over £1k Well, the neighbour above went elsewhere for a second opinion. The tech topped up the gas and the system sprang into life. He's since added a dye and asked that the car be brought back later this week to see if there's a leak. Unless the compressor itself is leaking then the first guy seems to have gotten the diagnosis wrong.
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Post by oli on Aug 13, 2018 17:56:17 GMT 1
How did you gas them have you the kit? and I also don't understand why people have such a negative view on A/C possibly one of the greatest comfort benefits to the motorist. My views on A/C are meant a little bit tongue-in-cheek if I'm honest. It is a lovely thing on a very hot day and if I spent a long time in a car, I'd regard it as more of an essential item. I always think it's interesting how many people you still see with their window down on a warm day. (90% + when I did a random look at a traffic jam last week and many were expensive new cars) I suppose it's a bit like real fires in centrally heated houses - they make no real sense, but human beings are funny creatures. oli Sorry, forgot to say - I've got some very basic kit I got just out of interest. It just regasses, rather than tests.
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