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Post by oli on May 2, 2017 23:03:34 GMT 1
I got a cheap 06 mini the other day that's got an irritating dent between the light cluster and rear bumper. I'd like to have a bash at removing it at some point. Unfortunately you can't get behind it, so I'm thinking of using my slide hammer or something else to pull it out. (It's small but a bit deep to just fill).
I'm not sure how best to secure the hammer or puller. I'm nervous about tack welding with vehicle electronics and I know you can use a drilled hole and self tapping screw or similar. Is drilling holes a no-no? (I heard you should never use filler to fill/bridge holes - but it's into a dry area and I thought liquid metal might be better than p38 or similar. It might even help hold the filler on.
Oli
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Post by valhalla on May 3, 2017 23:33:08 GMT 1
I'm no bodywork expert, but I would have thought that in this instance, the best way forward would have been a suction cup that attaches to the end of the slide hammer? That way, you avoid making holes that are not desirable.
The latest CM issue has an illustration of a professional bodyshop repair (sills? I cannot remember) which has the pukka tacked-on loops that grip the steel. I don't know how they get around the body electrical issue, given that the project car was a Prius....
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Post by upkeep on May 4, 2017 10:04:31 GMT 1
What about one of them Dent Doctor blokes.
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Post by Joepublic on May 4, 2017 12:37:13 GMT 1
Looked at one yesterday whilst walking the dogs, can you not take the light out and get it from behind?
Double sided number plate sticky pads no good?
A pic of the damage might help?
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Post by oli on May 4, 2017 13:05:54 GMT 1
I'll try to post a picture - wife has the car at the moment. Unfortunately even with the light out, access to the back of the panel is blocked. I might have to hunt out a copy of CM - I Unsubscribed a while back when they changed hands and I'll be honest I've not really read (or even seen one in the shops) since. The cars just a runaround, so repairing it is more for fun than anything else. I found some good vids on YouTube - there's an amazing smart repair one on a mini and most usefully an American (slightly in-your-face) guy repairing almost identical damage to mine. He uses a spot welder and clever lever and pad I think I could fabricate, but he also explains slide hammer use and seems to suggest drilling multiple holes is fine. I'll try with the mig when I get a chance (which with 10 month old demanding my time might be a while 😕) m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai9-jerS0y0Oli
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Post by dave on May 4, 2017 18:29:30 GMT 1
Use super glue Industrial stuff Will take a lot of force and is easily removed after with nail Polish remover I'm not making this up some autoshops here use adhesive I even believe you can get stuff like this in a set with one canister glue and one remover Don't even have to remove the paint
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Post by oli on May 4, 2017 22:21:38 GMT 1
Use super glue Industrial stuff Will take a lot of force and is easily removed after with nail Polish remover I'm not making this up some autoshops here use adhesive I even believe you can get stuff like this in a set with one canister glue and one remover Don't even have to remove the paint Very interesting you say that Dave as, now I've done a bit of research, glue seems to be the thing of the moment here as well. Oli
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Post by dave on May 4, 2017 22:38:30 GMT 1
Provided you have a cm or so surface to glue it will withstand a lot of preasure At work we tested a tube of loctite We glued an old door handle to the bottom of a forklifts fork It held my 250 pounds up indefinitly
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Post by oli on May 4, 2017 23:49:59 GMT 1
Lots of glue kits on eBay fairly cheap, so I might give it a go. It'll be something new to try. I'd be amazed if I can get away with out some filler and a respect but nothing to loose. There are also a couple of more minor bits that genuinely might come out without the need for reprinting.
Oli
PS. Pounds (lbs) indeed and not KG - in Belgium - you planning on making a break from the EU as well?!
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Post by dave on May 5, 2017 0:41:17 GMT 1
Just took the liberty of converting for your convenience
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Post by oli on May 5, 2017 16:12:16 GMT 1
Just took the liberty of converting for your convenience You put us to shame Dave working fluently in multiple languages and measurements! It's sad that so many people in the U.K. Struggle with metric measurements, considering it's nearly fifty years since we decimalised. I have no problem if people choose to use imperial measurements - still very common in fishing and shooting - but I genuinely had someone in their 20s the other day ask me to convert mm to cm as he just didn't understand these 'new' measurements! Oli
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Post by Noberator on May 5, 2017 16:29:33 GMT 1
Just took the liberty of converting for your convenience You put us to shame Dave working fluently in multiple languages and measurements! It's sad that so many people in the U.K. Struggle with metric measurements, considering it's nearly fifty years since we decimalised. I have no problem if people choose to use imperial measurements - still very common in fishing and shooting - Oli What do they teach these kids at school these days. This old Dinosaur understands the new and old coinage and the Imperial system and Metric system of weights and measures and I've been left school 47 years in Easter just gone. Yes back then you could leave school at Easter providing you had a job to go to.
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Post by Joepublic on May 5, 2017 17:51:51 GMT 1
Just took the liberty of converting for your convenience You put us to shame Dave working fluently in multiple languages and measurements! It's sad that so many people in the U.K. Struggle with metric measurements, considering it's nearly fifty years since we decimalised. I have no problem if people choose to use imperial measurements - still very common in fishing and shooting - but I genuinely had someone in their 20s the other day ask me to convert mm to cm as he just didn't understand these 'new' measurements! Oli How many could give change from a £10 note if the charge was £7.67 without a till / calculator?
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Post by dave on May 5, 2017 18:45:57 GMT 1
You put us to shame Dave working fluently in multiple languages and measurements! It's sad that so many people in the U.K. Struggle with metric measurements, considering it's nearly fifty years since we decimalised. I have no problem if people choose to use imperial measurements - still very common in fishing and shooting - but I genuinely had someone in their 20s the other day ask me to convert mm to cm as he just didn't understand these 'new' measurements! Oli How many could give change from a £10 note if the charge was £7.67 without a till / calculator? You have much to learn you ad on a 2.33 environmental fee and don't give him anything back
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Post by valhalla on May 5, 2017 22:56:39 GMT 1
How many could give change from a £10 note if the charge was £7.67 without a till / calculator? You have much to learn you ad on a 2.33 environmental fee and don't give him anything back In commerce, nothing is done without a till. This tool is your best friend, some say your only friend, when it comes to compliance for VAT and accounting for income tax. Hence the real shops use the pukka tills, rather than PC-based EPOS systems, as they know how much pain it would be to loose that data...... If it is a her that needs the change, I always oblige in Mrs. Valhalla's shop.
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