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Post by dooroy on Oct 4, 2015 17:39:43 GMT 1
Have to replace the sump on a 2004 Passat 1.9 Tdi
Would appreciate advice /suggestions as to how best to go about this.
I presume the job can be done without removing the engine - although space seems tight.
Car on a 4 post ramp.
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Post by upkeep on Oct 4, 2015 17:44:04 GMT 1
Will you have to remove the front subframe?
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Post by dooroy on Oct 4, 2015 18:40:53 GMT 1
Have been searching on Google and so far could only find articles on petrol engines - 1.8 mostly .
One site mentioned lowering the subframe but was a bit vague on detail .
So I decided to ask here for more specific help from people who had actually changed a sump
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Post by Karl on Oct 4, 2015 18:59:55 GMT 1
What does autodata say ?
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Post by upkeep on Oct 4, 2015 19:00:38 GMT 1
Ok we did loads for the local VAG dealer years ago at that time they had no 4 wheel alignment equipment so we did it for them, I found that after the repair we had to align the front subframe for camber got the cambers close then adjusted he rear alignment then to the front alignment bit ar*e about face but only way. we then had to do toe curves by raising the vehicle to the specific heights so be aware of any problems with alignment if you do not have the correct equipment.
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Post by studabear on Oct 4, 2015 19:27:19 GMT 1
Sure I've done this job, only took about 1hr presuming this is the fwd golf type set up rather than the longitudinal mounted engine like the Audi A4 etc?
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Post by Rhubarb on Oct 4, 2015 20:17:25 GMT 1
Sure I've done this job, only took about 1hr presuming this is the fwd golf type set up rather than the longitudinal mounted engine like the Audi A4 etc? This one will be like the A4  |
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Post by dooroy on Oct 4, 2015 20:30:41 GMT 1
The Passat doesn't have the transverse engine. When I was asked about doing it a few months back ( after the sump got smashed on a rock ) I'm afraid I had the Golf set up in mind  However when it arrived yesterday and got it on the ramp I realized this was not going to be easy. Don't have any alignment equipment other than Trakrite - but did see mention of alignment pins on one site (probably expensive and hard to justify for one job). A friend has a 4 wheel alignment set up so he would check for me afterwards - shouldn't be any harm to drive a few miles to his place . |
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Post by upkeep on Oct 4, 2015 21:34:07 GMT 1
Sure I've done this job, only took about 1hr presuming this is the fwd golf type set up rather than the longitudinal mounted engine like the Audi A4 etc? And the alignment? |
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Post by studabear on Oct 5, 2015 9:21:31 GMT 1
Never disturbed the alignment, the one I replaced must have been the newer shape passat.  Like this one, so my initial post won't be valid if thats the case, I had a couple of beers when I posted yesterday. |
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Post by studabear on Oct 5, 2015 9:25:38 GMT 1
Could engine removal be a viable option for replacing the sump?
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Post by dooroy on Oct 5, 2015 10:46:26 GMT 1
The one I have on the ramp is the older model . I'm beginning to think that engine removal may be worth considering. The subframe would have to come down quite a bit to get the sump out as it appears the oil pick up goes right down ( as you would expect ). And if access is still poor fitting the new one could be difficult - and maybe result in a leak somewhere . |
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Post by upkeep on Oct 5, 2015 12:33:57 GMT 1
Engine removal, might as well fit a clutch assembly and dmf and while its out fit a cambelt and water pump and if the sumps off a set of shells won't go amiss and the exhaust's a bit rusty and so on.....  |
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Post by Karl on Oct 5, 2015 16:46:14 GMT 1
Why does it need replacing
Damaged or leaking ?
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Post by upkeep on Oct 5, 2015 18:33:00 GMT 1
Karl, Smashed by big rock according to the op, as for alignment pins I've used sockets before or made some pins on a lathe. And for info you could check out the VW site for a few Euros.
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